Charles Follett Clark

M, b. 19 November 1893, d. 28 May 1959
Charles Follett Clark
FatherJohn Follett Clark b. 8 Aug 1860, d. 28 Mar 1925
MotherHannah Maud Carter b. 25 Feb 1871, d. 14 Apr 1952
ChartsClark, William - Descendant Chart (Indented)
Follett, John - Descendants (Indented)
Vardy, Alfred Thomas Decendants
Last Edited7 Jan 2021
     Charles was born at Elgin Street on 19 November 1893 at Sale, VictoriaG.1 He lived at "Kilmany", Sale, VictoriaG; I am unsure of the date however this is listed in the front of one of his books, "Westward Ho" by Charles Kingsley. The fly leaf then notes that he moved to Leongatha some time after that. The Australian electoral roll of 1917 has Charles listed as living at Perry Bridge, Gippsland, VictoriaG. Charles had a listed occupation of grazier. Perry Bridge is located in Gippsland between Sale and Bairnsdale, located near Lake Wellington. He was also listed here in 1919..2

There was some "bad blood" (to quote Elsie) between Charles and the rest of the family. Elsie believed that Charles was harshly treated by the rest of the family whilst they were in the Timber/Fuel business in Ringwood. It was apparently felt that Charles, as eldest son, was to be the sole person sent out to work far from home gathering the timber used in the business. He spent large amounts of time away from Elsie which took its toll. This resulted, apparently, in Charles leaving the business and settling in Leongatha.
He married Elsie Minnie Isobel Hull on 2 June 1923 at St Paul's Anglican Church, 530 Dandenong Road, Caulfield, VictoriaG.
Charles Follett Clark with Elsie Minnie Isobel Hull
He and Elsie Minnie Isobel Hull honeymooned at Healsville, VictoriaG. For ten days. Charles appeared on the Australian electoral roll of 1924 and listed as living at 23 Wanda Road, Caulfield, VictoriaG. Charles had a listed occupation of timber worker Elsie is not listed at this address.. The Australian electoral roll of 1925 has Charles and Elsie listed as living at Woodside, Gippsland, VictoriaG. Charles had a listed occupation of Sawmiller and she of homeduties. We also find that Charle's brother George is also in Woodside as a Sawmiller..
He was a witness at Alan Beauchamp Bull and Mary May Clark's wedding on 6 June 1925 at St John's Church, Camberwell, MelbourneG. At the time Alan was resident at York Street, Sale where he was a local Auctioneer. May was resident at the family home in Ringwood Street, Ringwood doing Home Duties.. Charles and Elsie appeared on the Australian electoral roll of 1926 and listed as living at 23 Wanda Road, Caulfield, VictoriaG. Charles had a listed occupation of timber worker and she of home duties. Charles and Elsie appeared on the Australian electoral roll of 1927 and listed as living at 23 Wanda Road, Caulfield, VictoriaG. Charles had a listed occupation of timber worker and she of home duties. The reasons for returning to Caulfield are unclear.. The Australian electoral roll of 1928 has Charles and Elsie listed as living at Anderson Rd, Sunshine, VictoriaG. Charles had a listed occupation of timber worker and she of home duties. I suspect it was whilst at Sunshine that three things happened. Firstly that Charles developed a "bad chest" (asthma?) from the saw dust and hence changed his career to become an AMP consultant selling insurance. Whether I have the timing and details correct may be disputed but both these things happened. They were still listed here until the first Roll of 1931. Thirdly, their daughter, Margaret, was born here in April..
Charles and Elsie appeared on the Australian electoral roll of 1931 and listed as living at Jeffery St, Leongatha, VictoriaG. Charles had a listed occupation of agent and she of home duties. This Supplemental Roll dated 28 Nov 1931 shows the move back to Gippsland and his new career..
Charles and Elsie appeared on the Australian electoral roll of 1934 and listed as living at 16 Church Street, Leongatha, VictoriaG. Charles had a listed occupation of agent and she of home duties. Charles at this time was an agent for AMP insurance. Nothing seemed to change and this was also the case in 1936..

16 Church Street, Leongatha
taken Feb 1977

After 242 days service Charles was discharged from the Australian Military Forces - Citizen Forces; 23 Battalion VDC (Vic) on 1st Dec 1942 at Leongatha because he was a member of a Reserved Occupation. His Number was V355343 and when discharged he was a Private.

During WWII Charles was not able to take part in the forces. Older in age and with a "bad chest", he was not able to enlist again. He did however end up as Manager at the Penshurst Flax Mill producing flax products from strings up to ropes for Naval use. He was an AMP agent in Leongatha at the time when a family member was able to get him a job as a foreman at the local flax mills. After some time there he was contacted and requested to go to the new Penshurst Flax Mill. There he was to be the manager. He was given less than a weeks notice to move and did so leaving Margaret and Elsie in Leongatha. Stan at this stage was at Wanda Road with Lydia undertaking his Pharmacy studies.3,4
Penshurst Flax Workers
Staff of the Penshurst Flax Mill, with the manager (Mr C F Clark) in the centre of the front row.

Charles Clark in his Office at Penshurst Flax Mills
Photograph by Andrew Clark
He lived at 17 Hassett Street, Leongatha, VictoriaG; This is the second address listed in "Westward Ho". Dates also uncertain. The Australian electoral roll of 1943 has Charles and Elsie listed as living at 17 Hassett Street, Leongatha, VictoriaG. Charles had a listed occupation of Agent and she of home duties.
On 22 January 1943, Charles, as Manager of the Penshurst Flax Mill attended the Flax Mill at Lismore, New South WalesG, to see the latest Australian inventions to harvest Flax. This meeting which was attended by most Australia's Flax luminaries was reported in Camperdown Chronicle on Tue 26 Jan 1943, Page 1 under the heading"Machinery Will Revolutionise Flax Industry." The Mill was finally broken up and sold in 1951 by the Department of the Interior.
Charles Clark
President of the Penshurst Bowling Club 1951
Photograph by Andrew Clark
He was employed for a time of 3-4 years with CSIRO after the Flax Mill was closed down. It was thought to be at their establishment in Aspendale or nearby there. It was family lore that he worked in their "strings and ropes" department.
After his few years there he (was) retired and eventually accepeted part-time work from his son, Stan where he worked in his Pharmacy doing odd jobs.5
Charles died on 28 May 1959 at 23 Wanda Road at Caulfield North, VictoriaG, at age 65. Charles died suddenly of a Coronary Occlusion after having Hypertention and Progressive Coronary Sclerosis for at least 5 years.. He was cremated His ashes reside in the Springvale Botanical Cemetery, Melaluca area. on 29 May 1959 at Springvale Crematorium, MelbourneG.6,7

Charles Follett Clark
Memorial Plaque; Springvale Botanical Cemetery

Family

Elsie Minnie Isobel Hull b. 3 Nov 1896, d. 26 Apr 1987
Children

Citations

  1. [S201] Victorian Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages, Birth Certificate, Victoria, Australia, Reg Vic No: 35047.
  2. [S234] Ancestry.com. Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010.
    Original data: Australian Electoral Commission. [Electoral roll].
  3. [S256] Newspaper on Trove, Weekly Times (Melbourne, Vic. : 1869 - 1954)
    Wed 18 Jun 1947
    Page 49
    PENSHURST FLAX WORKERS.
  4. [S164] E.F. Mogford, Growing of Flax, p, 22.
  5. [S164] E.F. Mogford, Growing of Flax, p.22.
  6. [S189] Victorian Death Certificate, Vic Reg No: 6282/1959.
  7. [S285] "Billion Graves"; https://billiongraves.com/grave/Charles-Follett-Clark/…. <unknown cd3>

Elsie Minnie Isobel Hull

F, b. 3 November 1896, d. 26 April 1987
Elsie Minnie Isobel Hull
1916 (20 years)
FatherThomas Hull d. 9 May 1938
MotherLydia Vardy b. 7 Nov 1871, d. 6 Jan 1954
ChartsClark, William - Descendant Chart (Indented)
Follett, John - Descendants (Indented)
Vardy, Alfred Thomas Decendants
Last Edited7 Jan 2021
     Elsie was born on 3 November 1896 at Welshpool, Sth Gippsland, VictoriaG. The Australian electoral roll of 1917 has Elsie listed as living at Wycheproof, VictoriaG. Elsie had a listed occupation of home duties.
Elsie appeared on the Australian electoral roll of 1919 and listed as living at Wycheproof, VictoriaG. Elsie had a listed occupation of home duties.
According to family lore, prior to Charles, Elsie was madly in love with a man from Northern Australia. This may have led to an engagement however her suitor pulled out of the arrangement and returned north. The Australian electoral roll of 1921 has Elsie listed as living at Glenton, High Street, Cranbourne, VictoriaG. Elsie had a listed occupation of home duties. She was living at home with her mother Lydia and father Tom who was a farmer at the time..

She married Charles Follett Clark on 2 June 1923 at St Paul's Anglican Church, 530 Dandenong Road, Caulfield, VictoriaG.
Charles Follett Clark with Elsie Minnie Isobel Hull
As of 2 June 1923,her married name was Clark. She and Charles Follett Clark honeymooned at Healsville, VictoriaG. For ten days. Elsie appeared on the Australian electoral roll of 1924 and listed as living at 23 Wanda Road, Caulfield, VictoriaG. Elsie had a listed occupation of home duties Elsie had not updated her name at this stage as she is listed as E M Hull in the first roll but later on in the Supplement is named as Clark..
The Australian electoral roll of 1925 has Elsie and Charles listed as living at Woodside, Gippsland, VictoriaG. Elsie had a listed occupation of homeduties and he of Sawmiller. We also find that Charle's brother George is also in Woodside as a Sawmiller..
Elsie and Charles appeared on the Australian electoral roll of 1926 and listed as living at 23 Wanda Road, Caulfield, VictoriaG. Elsie had a listed occupation of home duties and he of timber worker. Elsie and Charles appeared on the Australian electoral roll of 1927 and listed as living at 23 Wanda Road, Caulfield, VictoriaG. Elsie had a listed occupation of home duties and he of timber worker. The reasons for returning to Caulfield are unclear.. The Australian electoral roll of 1928 has Elsie and Charles listed as living at Anderson Rd, Sunshine, VictoriaG. Elsie had a listed occupation of home duties and he of timber worker. I suspect it was whilst at Sunshine that three things happened. Firstly that Charles developed a "bad chest" (asthma?) from the saw dust and hence changed his career to become an AMP consultant selling insurance. Whether I have the timing and details correct may be disputed but both these things happened. They were still listed here until the first Roll of 1931. Thirdly, their daughter, Margaret, was born here in April..
Stan appears to have been sent "on holidays" to his Materal Grandparents during the leadup to and maybe for a period after the birth of his sister Margaret.
He sent his mum and dad some cute letters over this period, endorsed on the back as "April '31". He would have been about 7 at this time. Exactly as written:
"Won Wron; Dear Dad and mum I got your letters on Wednesday and glad mum cough is better and I hope Spider is getting on well Scoil and I go rabbiting I can't milk but ride old lovely by my self when g'ma is milking the maize is great big ones and has big cobs.
from your little jockey Stan."
"Dear Mum and Dad I enjoyed my trip hills are lovely I got air plane walking Stick at show
from stan with kisses and love."1
Elsie and Charles appeared on the Australian electoral roll of 1931 and listed as living at Jeffery St, Leongatha, VictoriaG. Elsie had a listed occupation of home duties and he of agent. This Supplemental Roll dated 28 Nov 1931 shows the move back to Gippsland and his new career..
Elsie and Charles appeared on the Australian electoral roll of 1934 and listed as living at 16 Church Street, Leongatha, VictoriaG. Elsie had a listed occupation of home duties and he of agent. Charles at this time was an agent for AMP insurance. Nothing seemed to change and this was also the case in 1936..

16 Church Street, Leongatha
taken Feb 1977
The Australian electoral roll of 1943 has Elsie and Charles listed as living at 17 Hassett Street, Leongatha, VictoriaG. Elsie had a listed occupation of home duties and he of Agent. She resided at 44 Collins Street, on on 2 December 1945. Her son, Stan, sent her a brief and to the point telegram from the Armadale Post Office.

It read: "QUALIFIED - STAN" referring to his qualification as a Pharmacist.

Later in life when questioned as to its brevity he claimed that it was all that he could afford at the time.. She was widowed with the death of Charles Follett Clark on 28 May 1959 at 23 Wanda Road, Caulfield North, VictoriaG.
On 7 May 1962 Stan paid for Reid Bros. Constructions to undertake repairs at 23 Wanda Road, Caulfield, VictoriaG. It seemed to consist of Lifting and Relocating stumps as well as renewing some Baseboards. All up about £223/00. That was followed by a plaster on 12 Jul 1962 at £309.2 Elsie appeared on the Australian electoral roll of 1972 and listed as living at 1/16 Belmont Avenue, Glen Iris, Melbourne, VictoriaG. Elsie had a listed occupation of home duties She remained living there until just after Stan's death when she moved to Hamilton with her daughter Margaret. She was last on the Electoral Roll in Glen Iris in 1980 which is the last available Ellectoral Roll..
She was Elsie was keen on Womens Lawn Bowls later in life.She was a member of Caulfield Bowls Club.
Elsie [Far Left] with her Bowls Club.
They won the the 1976 "VLBA - Division D1" competition.
She was on Holiday in May 1978 at Singapore.
Elsie at "The Tropicana", Singapore having a Dim Sum lunch with her companion.

Elsie on a Cruise on the Rasa Sayang May1978

ELSIE MINIE ISOBEL HULL - From Taped Interview

Sarah Vardy, a nurse at Royal Melb Hosp., was home on holidays, there was a dance on and she had a boil on the side of her face wanted to draw the boil, so she got a hot bottle to draw it but got a "chill" in it and she died. Aged approx 24.

Roy William Alfred Hull had an uncle younger than himself.

I wish they had called me Isobel I think thats pretty. Elsie is as hard ....

re: George Lived more at our place than anywhere else. An accident while cutting wood at the woodheap. It struck his foot along the sole of the foot. His father was moved at the time he had this bad foot. They "took out and adopted him". I've got some of his letters about somewhere and those of his boy friend from Bairnsdale, who went with him. Cards he used to send.

Roy went to Caulfield Grammar and when he came back. George went to Caulfield Grammar. When he came back I went to the Star of the Sea Convent in Elsternwick. George was probably aged between Roy and Elsie. I was going to the Methodist Ladies College, I was booked in there really. We always had a governess, we never went to State school.

My best friend was Rita Tindale. Her father had a big Grocery/General Store. It had everything that opened and closed. Anyway Rita was going away to school at the same time I was. I had a music teacher, Miss Egan, she came from Toora and used to stay at our place while she was taking her students. She said to mum: "Elsie's worried with Rita going away to school, the're such good pals its a pity to see them part. Why don't you let her go with Rita." Anyhow Rita went to the school opposite the Exhibition Buildings, up there in Nicholson Street. I didn't go there because Miss Egan had a sister at the Star of the Sea where she was a nun. Low and behold it was Rita was the baby then because she came to where I was. So we stuck together still. We went to school together there. I supose I was about 11-12 when I went and 17 when I left. I used to love it.

As governess we had a number. eg Miss Hogg from New Zealand.
Elsie died on 26 April 1987 Will at PROV: VPRS 7591/ P13 unit 29, item 981/369 at age 90. Her body was interred on 30 April 1987 at Springvale, Melbourne, VictoriaG.

Family

Charles Follett Clark b. 19 Nov 1893, d. 28 May 1959
Children

Citations

  1. [S318] Andrew Clark [4], Andrew's Assorded Documents, CLARK Files; April 1931.
  2. [S318] Andrew Clark [4], Andrew's Assorded Documents, Receipt of 07/05/1962.

Stanley Follett Clark

M, b. 8 August 1924, d. 3 January 1982
FatherCharles Follett Clark b. 19 Nov 1893, d. 28 May 1959
MotherElsie Minnie Isobel Hull b. 3 Nov 1896, d. 26 Apr 1987
ChartsClark, William - Descendant Chart (Indented)
Follett, John - Descendants (Indented)
Vardy, Alfred Thomas Decendants
Last Edited1 Apr 2021
     Stanley was born at corner Wanda Ave & Hawthorn Rd on 8 August 1924 at "Stanley" Private Hospital, Caulfield, VictoriaG. He was baptized Church of England on 8 September 1924 at St Pauls Church, Malvern, VictoriaG.

Stanley Follett Clark
Photograph by Andrew Clark
His was commonly known as Stan. Stan appears to have been sent "on holidays" to his Materal Grandparents during the leadup to and maybe for a period after the birth of his sister Margaret.
He sent his mum and dad some cute letters over this period, endorsed on the back as "April '31". He would have been about 7 at this time. Exactly as written:
"Won Wron; Dear Dad and mum I got your letters on Wednesday and glad mum cough is better and I hope Spider is getting on well Scoil and I go rabbiting I can't milk but ride old lovely by my self when g'ma is milking the maize is great big ones and has big cobs.
from your little jockey Stan."
"Dear Mum and Dad I enjoyed my trip hills are lovely I got air plane walking Stick at show
from stan with kisses and love."1
Stan was mainly an athlete at Leongatha High School, Leongatha, VictoriaG. Page 19 of "The Review", the school magazine, lists "Stan Clarke" as coming second in The Junior B hundred yards. He was in Form F, being 12 years and 3 months old. Stanley was confirmed at the age of 13, on 14 November 1937 at St Peter's Anglican Church, Leongatha, VictoriaG. Stanley received first communion at St Peter's Church, Leongatha, VictoriaG, on 21 November 1937. Stanley attended as a student at Leongatha High School, Leongatha, VictoriaG, circa 1939. At this time he was also a member of the local Leongatha Band where he contributed via the Euphonium.. Stanley appeared on the Australian electoral roll of 18 May 1949 and listed as living at Korumburra Hotel, Korumburra, VictoriaG. Stanley had a listed occupation of This address would have been his pre-marriage address. This was altered on 26th June when he was transferred to the Subdivision of Balwyn.2
Stan made all the shop fittings himself, on weekends until he was able to open this business.
Stan in his first Pharmacy; with residence above the shop.
1052 Burke Road, Balwyn

On 7 May 1962 Stan paid for Reid Bros. Constructions to undertake repairs at 23 Wanda Road, Caulfield, VictoriaG. It seemed to consist of Lifting and Relocating stumps as well as renewing some Baseboards. All up about £223/00. That was followed by a plaster on 12 Jul 1962 at £309.3
Opening Day at Trentwood Shopping Centre, Greythorn
Stan's second Pharmacy


On the 7th of November 1972 Stan started as a Charter Member and as Charter President of the Rotary Club of Balwyn. Rotary was to play a large part in his life and occupied much of liesure and free time through to his death. He had previously been a member of the Rotary Club of Canterbury for a short period prior to the formation of the Balwyn Club.


At the meeting of the Rotary Club of Balwyn, on the 19th of April 1977, Stan was inducted as a Paul Harris Fellow of Rotary. The notation in the clubs records note: "Members, past members and their wives combined to honour Balwyn's Charter President Paul Harris Fellow Stan Clark. President Jim (James Hopper) presented to Stan the framed letter which states that he is a Paul Harris Fellow. Jock Andrews, the District Govenor at the inauguration of our club presented Stan with the Paul Harris Medallion, and Ray Chambers, our District Govenor elect, spoke of Stan's significant contribution to Rotary. This was followed by the presentation of the Citation, by Bill Hardy, and the reading of the congratulatory letters from Bert and Stevie Stevens and Ralph & Judith Howard.
Stan responded, thanking the club for the honour conferred on him, and modestly giving credit to the club members for their support.
On behalf of the ladies Pamela Thomas presented Betty with a bouquet and to Stan a unique "Flasher" Award in recognition of his ability with a camera, at the Albury Conference."

Stanley died on 3 January 1982 at 207 Balwyn Road at North Balwyn, Melbourne, VictoriaG, from a secondary carcinoma of liver. He had only known of this for about two months. Soon after coming home from a caravan trip he complained of a pain in his side, like a bad stitch, which he put down to "pulling a muscle" as he was lifting and manouvering the caravan into place at home at age 57.
Stan Clark
about a year before his death.
Photograph by Andrew Clark
He was cremated on 6 January 1982 at The Necropolous - Springvale Crematorium, Springvale, MelbourneG. His ashes reside, in perpetuity (for all time) in the Springvale Botanical Cemetery, Rapids area, Wall B, Niche 077.. His obituary in the Australian Journal of Pharmacy reads as:
Chairman of Amcal dies
The chairman of Allied Master Chemists of Australia Ltd. (Amcal), Mr Stanley Follett Clark, died at North Balwyn (Vic.) on January 3.
Mr Clark was also a former treasurer of the Pharmacy Board of Victoria.
Registered to practise as a pharmacist in Victoria in 1945, Mr Clark established pharmacies at North Balwyn in 1960, at Doncaster in 1969, and at Karingal in 1978. His son, Andrew, joined him in partnership in the North Balwyn pharmacy in 1976, and in the Karingal pharmacy in 1978.
Mr Clark was elected to the Pharmacy Board of Victoria in 1971 and served on the board until 1977, holding the office of treasurer 1975-77.
He was a member of the board of examiners of the Victorian College of Pharmacy, and of the inspectorial committee.
He also served as the board's representative on the ethics committee of the Pharmaceutical Society of Australia
(Victorian branch), and on the committee of inquiry into the rationalisation of pharmacy.
Mr Clark had a long and distinguished association with Amcal. After joining the organisation in 1953, he was elected a member of the general committee in 1959 and chairman of the committee from 1959 to 1967.
He was elected to the Amcal board in 1961, becoming treasurer in 1967, and chairman in 1980, a position he held until the time of his death.
Mr Clark also was very involved in community affairs, becoming charter president of the Rotary Club of Balwyn in 1976. In 1979 he was conferred as a "Paul Harris Fellow" by Rotary for his many contributions to community welfare. He was elected district secretary in 1980
He was also a Fellow of the Company Directors' Association of Australia.
Mr Clark was widely known for his dedicated service and kind disposition. He is survived by his wife, Betty, and children Andrew and Susan.4


At the Rotary Club of Balwyn at their weekly meeting RCB member and past president Jim Hopper spoke about Stan Clark describing the early days of the club's charter president..
“We go back 38 years to 1972 when our Club Balwyn was chartered by RC Camberwell,'' said Jim Hopper. ``Stan Clark was chosen as our first President over a Club of just 30 members, all novices to Rotary. I was Stan’s Secretary.” (Oh and we learned that this was the tumultuous year when the Whitlam Government was elected to power in Australia. Great happenings coincided!)
In those days the Club met at Canterbury Senior Citizens Centre in Rochester Road where the Head Table was on an elevated stage, with Club management sitting in a long line facing the other tables. As few knew much about Rotary procedures, we were discretely helped along by senior representative from RC Camberwell Bert Stevens who hastily scribbled notes along to Stan during meetings. But Stan Clark soon mastered procedures and guided the Club with a firm but friendly hand.
Stan heeded advice from RC Camberwell, not to rush into community projects, but to first foster fellowship amongst members and cultivate team spirit. Board and Committee Meetings were held in family homes. We also had fireside chats in homes, informal meetings where Rotary related issues were discussed. In time under Stan’s Leadership, a wonderful friendly spirit developed, with the result that in 3 years, club membership increased from 30 to 40 and we were able to establish the Sunday Camberwell Market. “ Stan’s leadership style suited us, for when he gave someone a job to do, he never interfered or meddled” Jim continued.
We learned it was in January 1978 that R.I. President Jack Davis visited Melbourne, that Stan was tasked with organising the dinner to be held at Chaucers for all the Clubs in the District. This was a major event at a difficult time of the year, when families took 3-4 weeks holidays. Jim continued: “As his assistant, I saw at first hand Stan’s organising abilities with attention to detail.”
When our first Paul Harris Fellowship was awarded in 1977, Stan Clark was the recipient in recognition for all the work he had put into the Club and District during his early years. “Within his first nine months, we assisted in the Camberwell RC’s Annual Art Show, and we helped the North Balwyn Senior Citizens locate permanent premises,” Jim remarked. A few years later Balwyn in fact donated $70,000 towards building of their Marwal Avenue premises.
Central to the warm fellowship in the Club were family days at Stan and Betty’s holiday home at Mt Eliza.
In Conclusion, Jim said: “’ Stan Clark embodied what to me are the benefits of being a Rotarian – voluntary community service with fun and fellowship. I’ll remember Stan for his unfailing quiet good humour, the ability to take a joke against himself, his hard work in Rotary and his generous and friendly spirit. The fine team spirit still present in the Club owes much to Stan’s initial year as President”.

Family

Child

Citations

  1. [S318] Andrew Clark [4], Andrew's Assorded Documents, CLARK Files; April 1931.
  2. [S234] Ancestry.com. Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010.
    Original data: Australian Electoral Commission. [Electoral roll].
  3. [S318] Andrew Clark [4], Andrew's Assorded Documents, Receipt of 07/05/1962.
  4. [S248] Staff writer, "Chairman of Amcal dies", p 111.

Andrew Follett Clark

M, b. 7 May 1950
FatherStanley Follett Clark b. 8 Aug 1924, d. 3 Jan 1982
ChartsClark, Andrew - Descendant Chart (Box)
Clark, Andrew - Descendant Chart (Indented)
Last Edited23 May 2020
     Author of this work. Andrew was born at St Andrews Hospital on 7 May 1950 at East Melbourne, VictoriaG. 1950 was the year in which the noun "big bang" first entered the Oxford Dictionary. In May 1950 the musical "South Pacific" had just been awarded the Pulitzer Prize for best American play. In Australia the average income was $1,068; a 3 bedroom house $6,000; petrol 6¢ a litre; bread 9¢; our population was just over 8 million and.
Andrew's Blood group is "A Neg". He was christened on 20 August 1950 at Murrumbeena, Melbourne, VictoriaG. ..
At about 1 year of age, Andrew was flown with his mother to Hamilton to visit the Clark famly. This was his first plane flight.
He commenced in Grade 1 at 349 Barkers Road at Carey Baptist Grammar School, KewG. His first grade teacher was Miss Renkin and he was in Moore House.. Andrew left with the Carey Crew to compete in the Metropolitan Regatta at on the Yarra River, MelbourneG, circa March 1965. Competed in the only race I have evidence of that I won. We recieved a pewter beer mug enscribed:
Presented to
The Winning Crew
Metropolitan Regatta
Bow J. Calligan
2 R. Aird
3 A. Clark
4 M. Fedderson
Cox S. Campi

This must have been an ad-hoc crew or very early in my rowing career as I can only ever remember being on the stroke side. "Calligan" was John Callaghan and the mug resides with Simon Campi..
Andrew returned to Carey for a second year of Matriculation to round out his Matriculation scores and pick up Biology to ensure entry to his first choice tertiary education of Pharmacy. For this year he was appointed School Captain at Carey. He enjoyed the challenge and belived that the added responsibilities helped with his personal development well beyond that he otherwise would have achieved.
As a nominee of Carey, Andrew attended a week long "Big Camp" at Lord Somer Camp, Somers, VictoriaG.
He commenced his Batchelor of Pharmacy degree in the first term of 1969 at Royal Parade at Victorian College of Pharmacy, Parkville, Melbourne, VictoriaG. 30th July 1971. This was my first "date" with Jane; as a result of a "dare" I suppose at Pharmacy College. We went to lunch at La Pottot in Latrobe Street in the city. We enjoyed French onion soup, shaslicks, chocolate mousse and a bottle of Galway Vintage Claret (1967). Unfortunately lunch was more expensive than first thought as I had received a parking ticket on return to my car. Was this a sign to the future?. Andrew graduated from at Royal Parade at the Victorian College Pharmacy, Parkville, VictoriaG, in 1972. He attended his Graduation Ceremony on 7th May 1973 at the Victorian College of Pharmacy.. On Boxing Day in 1972 I proposed to Jane. We were in the Study at 8 Logie Court and Jane was wearing her burnt-orange, cut-cord jeans with her favourite black skirt.. On Saturday 3rd February 1973 Jane and I decided to get engaged whilst we were staying with Mum and Dad at our Mt Eliza beach house. I rang Mr & Mrs Ingles and saught their permission.. We purchased Jane's engagement ring on Friday 9th February 1973 at David East's, Jewellers at Doncaster Shopping Town.. He became engaged to Jane Roslyn Ingles on 17 February 1973 at Oakleigh, VictoriaG.
Andrew & Jane cut their Engagement Cake
He was officially registered by the Pharmacy Board of Victoria as a Pharmacist on 7th November 1973 having completed all his prescribed hours of practical training on the 3rd November. He remained a registered Pharmacist until the end of 2013; a 40 year professional life..
He married Jane Roslyn Ingles on 9 February 1974 at Carey Grammar Chapel, Kew, MelbourneG. This was a morning Wedding followed by the Wedding Reception which started early in the afternoon. It was held in Jane's family home at 8 Logie Court, Oakleigh. A great time was had by all and described by Andrew as the best party of my life. The last guest left the following Wednesday.. He and Jane Roslyn Ingles honeymooned at The Chalet, Mt. Buffalo, VictoriaG, on 10 February 1974. Andrew was employed at as a Pharmacist in 1974. He undertook Locum work organised by Mrs Templar of the Sigma Co Locum Service. Being the botom of the heap he would travel from Mt Eliza to places as far afield as Werribee, Laverton or Healsville for a day's work. Then via a lucky break at someone else's expense he sent 10 weeks at Rosebud West Pharmacy when the proprietor, Mr Mansell, suffered sever infection after some routine surgery.. Andrew and Jane arrived on 4 February 1976 at SingaporeG. They spent about 6 days here before flying out.
Andrew and Jane left for an Amcal Conference at AsiaG on 4 February 1976. Andrew and Jane arrived on 10 February 1976 at Hong KongG. They spent a day trip in Macau on the 13th Feb before returning to Hong Kong. Andrew and Jane left for at home on 15 February 1976. They had spent 11 days on this Conference trip.
At the meeting of the Rotary Club of Balwyn, on the 19th of April 1977, Stan was inducted as a Paul Harris Fellow of Rotary. The notation in the clubs records note: "Members, past members and their wives combined to honour Balwyn's Charter President Paul Harris Fellow Stan Clark. President Jim (James Hopper) presented to Stan the framed letter which states that he is a Paul Harris Fellow. Jock Andrews, the District Govenor at the inauguration of our club presented Stan with the Paul Harris Medallion, and Ray Chambers, our District Govenor elect, spoke of Stan's significant contribution to Rotary. This was followed by the presentation of the Citation, by Bill Hardy, and the reading of the congratulatory letters from Bert and Stevie Stevens and Ralph & Judith Howard.
Stan responded, thanking the club for the honour conferred on him, and modestly giving credit to the club members for their support.
On behalf of the ladies Pamela Thomas presented Betty with a bouquet and to Stan a unique "Flasher" Award in recognition of his ability with a camera, at the Albury Conference."
Andrew and Jane arrived on 18 March 1978 at Nandi, FijiG. This was a joint Amcal Conference and holiday. They departed back to Melbourne on 2nd April 1978.
As part of his professional development Andrew joined a number of business organisations outside those of Pharmacy to broaden his outlook. He joined "AIM" [Australian Institute of Mangement] on 26 Jun 1978 and was given a Fellowship of the Institute [FAIM]. He was also a Fellow of The Australian Institute of Company Directors [previously The Company Directors Association] having completed the Certiificate course [FAICD]. Andrew and Jane arrived on 13 April 1979 at USAG. It had been a harrowing 36 hour trip. Melbourne to Sydney then Auckland. After a 4 hour wait it was off to Hawaii where there were more delays and a customs check. Finally the West Coast was reached, all that time later.The length of the trip was approximately 2-3 weeks with a few days stay over in Hawaii. Most memorable features of Hawaii were the diving and the all day flight around every island. Andrew and Janemoved residence in June 1981 at 1 Derby Street, Blackburn, MelbourneG; David was just on 2 months old when they moved. Following dads death I was sole proprietor and sold Clarks' Pharmacy, an Amcal Chemist at 325A Doncaster Road, North Balwyn to pharmacists John and Jenny Marty to repay my debt to dads Estate (mum). Jane and I had Karingal Hub Amcal Chemist which we kept and grew over the years. In December 1983 I undertook to become a Councillor of The Genealogical Society of Victoria. Whilst in this role I co-initiated a self help group with the Society known as Vic GUM (Victorian Genealogists Using Mini and mainframe computers). This was in the very early days of computing when only a small number of members had any form of computer based genealogy. It also help the GSV to untertake many administrative tasks on a computer assisting with donations of hardware, software and expertise. I retired from this role in June 1985 with increasing pressure from work and family. Andrew and Jane left for at VanuatuG on 28 May 1985. This was a trip won through a pharmacy competition run by a french fragrance house. Andrew and Jane left for at home on 2 June 1985. They had spent 1 week in Vanuatu, including a 2 day trip to climb Mt Tanner, an active volcano. Andrew and Jane arrived on 28 May 1986 at Hong KongG. Andrew and Jane left for at ChinaG on 28 May 1986. It was via Hong Kong and included a few days in Macau. Both these places were independent colonies at this stage of history. Andrew and Jane arrived on 1 June 1986 at MacauG. They arrived for a 3 days stay and enjoyed many casual walks and bus trips around the colony. It was during this trip they bought their Tan Dynasty Burial Statue from a hidden, back lane shop. Andrew and Jane left for at home on 17 June 1986. They arrived back in Melbourne on 18th June. Andrew and Jane left for at Noumea, New CaledonieG, on 3 April 1988. They had won a weeks holiday at Club Med for a french Perfume window. Andrew and Jane arrived on 3 April 1988 at Noumea, New CaledonieG. Andrew and Jane left for at Noumea, New CaledonieG, on 10 April 1988. They arrived back into Melbourne airport the same day.
Along with his wife, Jane and partners Joe and Wendy Demarte they opened Clark and Demarte's Amcal Pharmacy Lygon Court Shopping Plaza, 380 Lygon Street, Carlton, MelbourneG, on 6 March 1989.
Along with his wife, Jane and partners Joe and Wendy Demarte they opened Clark and Demarte's Amcal Pharmacy Dandenong Plaza, Dandenong, VictoriaG, on November 1989. Andrew was elected Chairman of Amcal Chemists, on 30 October 1990 at Springvale, Melbourne, VictoriaG.

From the 5th to 13th October 2002, Melbourne hosted The World Masters Games. I had returned to rowing some 4-5 years earlier, with the Mercantile Rowing Club; rowing in their seniors inthe "Inebri-eight". We entered the appropriate rowing events which were held at Lake Wendouree, Ballarat. We surprised ourselves by coming higher than mid-field which was not bad considering the competion from interstate and around the world.
Entry fees to the Melbourne World Masters Games were $165.00.
He and Jane Roslyn Ingles purchased a new home on 29 October 2003 at 115 Neill Street, Carlton, Melbourne, Victoria, AustraliaG, for $821,500. They moved in almost straight after settlement on 10 Feb 2004.. Andrew Follett Clark witnessed the death of Jane Roslyn Ingles on 15 May 2008 at Albury Base Hospital, Albury, NSWG; Jane died as a result of an unexpected subarachnoid haemorrhage (bleed into brain). She was being treated for a Non-hodgkins Lymphoma which she had had for about 5 years. Her current round of Chemotherapy (IVAR) for had reduced her platelet count to zero. She suffered an infection and was in Critical Care where her observational signs appearred to indicate that she was getting over the infection. Unfortunately during a sleep she must have sufferred the haemorrhage. Support was withdrawn and she passed away comfortably, asleep and without pain.

Andrew and Dianne met for a "drink" for the first time at the Marine Hotel, Brighton on the 6th March 2011 after "meeting" on the web site e-Harmony. Andrew Follett Clark witnessed the death of Peter John LAMB on 13 May 2011. Andrew Follett Clark was a partner of Dianne Jennifer Elliott on 5 April 2012 at 115 Neill Street, Carlton, Melbourne, Victoria, AustraliaG. Andrew Follett Clark was the executor of Sheila Edith Ingles's estate on 12 November 2012; Determination proved in The Supreme Court of Victoria, Probate Jurisdiction.1
He married Dianne Jennifer Elliott on 9 May 2015 at North Fitzroy Star Hotel, 32-36 St Georges Rd South, Fitzroy North, VictoriaG. Andrew Follett Clark purchased a new home on 31 January 2018 at Balmoral, 301/1571 Malvern Road, Glen Iris, Melbourne, VictoriaG, This purchase was "off-the-plan" requiring a wait until later in 2019 for occupancy as the units were constructed. He sold their current residence in Carlton in March 2019. He and Di were very generously able to "house sit" a friends house in Norwood Road, Caulfield North until the Appartment block, "Balmoral", was ready..
On Friday 31 January 2020 I finally settled the purchase of Balmoral, 301/1571 Malvern Road, Glen Iris, Melbourne, VictoriaG, our new home after having lived in the Apartment "on licence" since a week before Christmas Day. We had been previously living at 9 Norwood Road, Cauflield North in the Melbourne home of our good friends, Peter and Susan George. Their full time home being in Ballarat.

Family 1

Jane Roslyn Ingles b. 11 Mar 1953, d. 15 May 2008

Family 2

Dianne Jennifer Elliott b. 27 Nov 1948

Citations

  1. [S318] Andrew Clark [4], Andrew's Assorded Documents, Probate of S E Ingles granted 12/11/2012.

Jane Roslyn Ingles

F, b. 11 March 1953, d. 15 May 2008
Jane posing at Port Fairy. Approximately 1974.
FatherWallace Ingles b. 13 Dec 1904, d. 7 Sep 1997
MotherSheila Edith Murphy b. 25 Oct 1918, d. 12 Aug 2012
ChartsClark, Andrew - Descendant Chart (Indented)
Last Edited23 May 2020
     Jane was born weighing 3.3452Kg (7lb 6oz) at Erin Street on 11 March 1953 at Epworth Private Hospital, Richmond, VictoriaG. Sheila and Wallace were residing at 218 Genhuntly Road, Elsternwick at the time and "Bill" was now listed as a "District Service Organiser" for a "Motor Company". The birth was registered on 21st April 1953 in Melbourne..
Jane's middle name came from "Roslyn" a house in Latrobe Terrace, Geelong where her father once lived.
Jane's birth was significant in that she was only the second baby in Australia, the first in Victoria to have a 100% Blood Tranfusion/Replacement due to Rh complications at birth. She was christened in April 1954 at Scotts Presbyterian Church at 218 Glenhuntly Road at Elsternwick, MelbourneG. She lived with Wallace Ingles and Sheila Edith Murphy in December 1955 at Kayena, TasmaniaG; For Christmas this year he received from "Aunty Bly" a copy of "Early Tasmania" by James B. Walker. Jane, Wallace Ingles and Sheila Edith Murphy's child, resided with Wallace and Sheila According to a letter penned by "Snowy" on 25 May 1960, addressed to "Shack", "you were leaving Kayena on 11th June, and would be touring Tasmania before leaving the State".
When they actually settled in Victoria I am not sure but it was in time for Jane to start the next school year.
What was the trigger for this move? According to Janes stories to me there were two major families in Kayena with whom she went (walked) to the local school, the Kelbs and the Benders. As an "outsider" she was not included in all the local school childrens activities. She was apparently only to be the lookout when the others went into the roadside ditches to play "doctors and nurses". As Jane had an excellent relationship with her mum and dad it became clear to them what was going on and they decided it was time to uproot and return to Melbourne., at Kayena, TasmaniaG, on 11 June 1960. Jane Roslyn Ingles lived with Wallace Ingles and Sheila Edith Ingles on 26 May 1964 at 16 Taylor Street, Oakleigh, VictoriaG; This is the information Bill forwarded to Repatriation informing them of his move there from 11 Miami Street, Hawthorn, E3 Victoria.
She commenced her Science course at Monash University, Melbourne, VictoriaG, in 1969. The aim was to convert to Pharmacy after first year as she had not studied the correct subjects at Year 12 to get straight into it.. She became engaged to Andrew Follett Clark on 17 February 1973 at Oakleigh, VictoriaG.
Andrew & Jane cut their Engagement Cake

She married Andrew Follett Clark on 9 February 1974 at Carey Grammar Chapel, Kew, MelbourneG. This was a morning Wedding followed by the Wedding Reception which started early in the afternoon. It was held in Jane's family home at 8 Logie Court, Oakleigh. A great time was had by all and described by Andrew as the best party of my life. The last guest left the following Wednesday.. As of 9 February 1974,her married name was Clark. She and Andrew Follett Clark honeymooned at The Chalet, Mt. Buffalo, VictoriaG, on 10 February 1974. Jane was employed at Mount Eliza as a Pharmacist in April 1974. Jane and Andrew arrived on 4 February 1976 at SingaporeG. They spent about 6 days here before flying out.
Jane and Andrew left for an Amcal Conference at AsiaG on 4 February 1976. Jane and Andrew arrived on 10 February 1976 at Hong KongG. They spent a day trip in Macau on the 13th Feb before returning to Hong Kong. Jane and Andrew left for at home on 15 February 1976. They had spent 11 days on this Conference trip.
At the meeting of the Rotary Club of Balwyn, on the 19th of April 1977, Stan was inducted as a Paul Harris Fellow of Rotary. The notation in the clubs records note: "Members, past members and their wives combined to honour Balwyn's Charter President Paul Harris Fellow Stan Clark. President Jim (James Hopper) presented to Stan the framed letter which states that he is a Paul Harris Fellow. Jock Andrews, the District Govenor at the inauguration of our club presented Stan with the Paul Harris Medallion, and Ray Chambers, our District Govenor elect, spoke of Stan's significant contribution to Rotary. This was followed by the presentation of the Citation, by Bill Hardy, and the reading of the congratulatory letters from Bert and Stevie Stevens and Ralph & Judith Howard.
Stan responded, thanking the club for the honour conferred on him, and modestly giving credit to the club members for their support.
On behalf of the ladies Pamela Thomas presented Betty with a bouquet and to Stan a unique "Flasher" Award in recognition of his ability with a camera, at the Albury Conference."
Jane and Andrew arrived on 18 March 1978 at Nandi, FijiG. This was a joint Amcal Conference and holiday. They departed back to Melbourne on 2nd April 1978. Jane and Andrew arrived on 13 April 1979 at USAG. It had been a harrowing 36 hour trip. Melbourne to Sydney then Auckland. After a 4 hour wait it was off to Hawaii where there were more delays and a customs check. Finally the West Coast was reached, all that time later.The length of the trip was approximately 2-3 weeks with a few days stay over in Hawaii. Most memorable features of Hawaii were the diving and the all day flight around every island. Jane and Andrewmoved residence in June 1981 at 1 Derby Street, Blackburn, MelbourneG; David was just on 2 months old when they moved. Jane and Andrew left for at VanuatuG on 28 May 1985. This was a trip won through a pharmacy competition run by a french fragrance house. Jane and Andrew left for at home on 2 June 1985. They had spent 1 week in Vanuatu, including a 2 day trip to climb Mt Tanner, an active volcano. Jane and Andrew left for at ChinaG on 28 May 1986. It was via Hong Kong and included a few days in Macau. Both these places were independent colonies at this stage of history. Jane and Andrew arrived on 28 May 1986 at Hong KongG. Jane and Andrew arrived on 1 June 1986 at MacauG. They arrived for a 3 days stay and enjoyed many casual walks and bus trips around the colony. It was during this trip they bought their Tan Dynasty Burial Statue from a hidden, back lane shop. Jane and Andrew left for at home on 17 June 1986. They arrived back in Melbourne on 18th June. Jane and Andrew arrived on 3 April 1988 at Noumea, New CaledonieG. Jane and Andrew left for at Noumea, New CaledonieG, on 3 April 1988. They had won a weeks holiday at Club Med for a french Perfume window. Jane and Andrew left for at Noumea, New CaledonieG, on 10 April 1988. They arrived back into Melbourne airport the same day. On the 28th Feb 1989 Jane entered into partnership with Wendy Demarte to open Clark & Demarte Amcal Chemist in Lygon Plaza Shopping Centre, Carlton. Andrew Clark & Joe Demarte were employed as managers and Pharmacists, as well as Jane & Wendy. On 5th Nov 1991 Jane sold her partnership in Clark& Demarte Amcal Chemist, in Carlton, to Joe Demarte. She witnessed Gweneth Irene Roberts's death on 29 May 2002 at Caulfield, VictoriaG.1,2 Jane Roslyn Ingles and Andrew Follett Clark purchased a new home on 29 October 2003 at 115 Neill Street, Carlton, Melbourne, Victoria, AustraliaG, for $821,500. They moved in almost straight after settlement on 10 Feb 2004..
Jane Roslyn Ingles died on 15 May 2008 at Albury Base Hospital, Albury, NSWG, at age 55. Jane died as a result of an unexpected subarachnoid haemorrhage (bleed into brain). She was being treated for a Non-hodgkins Lymphoma which she had had for about 5 years. Her current round of Chemotherapy (IVAR) for had reduced her platelet count to zero. She suffered an infection and was in Critical Care where her observational signs appearred to indicate that she was getting over the infection. Unfortunately during a sleep she must have sufferred the haemorrhage. Support was withdrawn and she passed away comfortably, asleep and without pain. She was cremated This was an unattended cremation so that a Celebration of Life could be held in Melbourne and a scattering could take place later. on 16 May 2008 at Avondale Crematorium, AlburyG.
On 13 February 2011 Carey honoured the time and generosity that Jane had committed to the School by naming a rowing four in her name at a ceremony held Carey Boat Shed, 1 Boathouse Drive, MelbourneG. The ashes of Jane Roslyn Ingles were scattered on 24 November 2012 at Bonnie Beach, Kayena, TasmaniaG. Her ashes were scattered by Andrew, David and Alexandra from the pontoon there at the time along with those of her mother, Sheila. A party of 28 friends and relatives attended. It was a day of blue sky, green hills and flowing water which made a perfect setting for the day.

Family

Andrew Follett Clark b. 7 May 1950

Citations

  1. [S194] Death Certificate - Victoria, Gweneth Irene VENNELL: Reg Vic No:8813/2002.
  2. [S112] No children.

Herbert Joseph Gamble

M, b. 3 July 1882, d. 9 November 1960
Herbert Joseph Gamble
FatherJoseph Gamble b. 7 Jul 1836, d. 26 Apr 1896
MotherJessie Crow b. 18 Sep 1840, d. 4 Apr 1922
ChartsCairns, John - Descendant Chart (Indented)
Craw (Crow), James - Descendant Chart (Indented)
Gamble, John - Descendants Chart (Indented)
Gamble, Joseph - Descendant Chart (Box)
Last Edited5 Mar 2020
      Herbert Joseph Gamble was also known as PaPa (to his grandchildren). Herbert was born on 3 July 1882 at Glenlyon Villa, East Brunswick, Melbourne, VictoriaG. The address of "Glenlyon Villa" is not known but it could be the family home, otherwise known as "Unity House". I hope to find out more detail later..


Herbert had three main career changes in his life that I can find. Roughly they were Carting, Cordials and Brickmaker.
I can't find a definite reference to his starting in carting but this was his fathers occupation and would have been a natural fit for him. His father was made bankrupt after the fire that wiped out his business in Brunswick in 1886. Family lore has it that family friends assisted him to start up.
He married Mabel Cairns on 28 April 1910 at Presbyterian Church, Footscray, MelbourneG.1 Herbert was employed at He apparently was known to have driven drays or carts pulled by oxen. We are not sure where or when but it is a well known family fact. as a Cartage Contractor at East Brunswick, Melbourne, VictoriaG, in 1910. Herbert and Mabel appeared on the Australian electoral roll of 1914 and listed as living at 4 King Street east, Brunswick, Melbourne, VictoriaG. Herbert had a listed occupation of carrier and she of house duties.

It was around this time (1915) that H.J. Gamble (Papa) wound up his cartage business to commense his second business career in the Aereated Waters and Cordial business. The Auction to sell the assests of his business took place on the 8th April 1915 at his business premesis in King Street, North Fitzroy. He had purchased the Cordial business of C. Pfieler Kalos Cordial Factory, 179 Clauscen Street, North Fitzroy. [Now a block of Units].2 Herbert and Mabel appeared on the Australian electoral roll of 1919 and listed as living at 4 King Street east, Brunswick, Melbourne, VictoriaG. Herbert had a listed occupation of carrier and she of home duties. Note that in second listing for 1919 for the Division of Bourke, Subdivision of Brunswick South that they are listed as Three (3) King Street..
On 1 October 1920 Herbert opened his new Aereated Waters and Cordial factory at 6 King Street, North Fitzroy, VictoriaG, after 20 or so years at Clauscen St.
I am not sure why but this was sold approximately one year later to Mr Moffat Neilson. He operated it until 1926 when it was known as Neilson and Co. He and Mabel Cairns lived in 1921 at King Street, North Fitzroy, Melbourne, VictoriaG; Herbert had lived there since 1907. At this stage of their lives, having just sold their Aereated Waters business they moved on. There next electoral roll address has them listed as living in South Road, Bright where we believe hey were staying with ??. This was possibly whist Neerim Road was being built. Herbert and Mabel appeared on the Australian electoral roll of 1924 and listed as living at 89 South Road, Brighton, MelbourneG. Herbert had a listed occupation of nil and she of home duties. This was possibly a temporary address whilst moving into Neerim Road. Certainly Betty was not aware of this so it was probably a short term stay..
Early-ish on in family life Papa undertook a solo cruise, leaving Mama at home. Aboard the ??? Maru he sailed to Japan and back. During the trip he made special friends with the ship's Japanese Captain who, on a subsequent trip to Australia, called into Neerin Road to pay a return visit to Papa. No-one is absolutely sure why he undertook this trip but Betty has a strong feeling that Papa was not well at the time and that this was a recuperative cruise. They had been planning a trip to take Mama back to visit her family in New Zealand. This was cancelled and she never visited there. Herbert and Mabel appeared on the Australian electoral roll of 1931 and listed as living at 483 Neerim Road, Murrumbeena, Melbourne, VictoriaG. Herbert had a listed occupation of bricklayer and she of home duties. Given that Herbert had never laid a brick in his live makes this is incorrect. He was in fact a brickmaker.. Herbert and Duncan Cornelius Mackinnon were friends together with their wives; both families living in Neerim Road. They were part of a group of friends centered around and the Murrumbeena Bowls Club.
Other friend fequently mentioned were an unknown person at St Giles Presbyterian Church, 117 Murrumbeena Rd, Murrumbeena, VictoriaG. Herbert and Mabel appeared on the Australian electoral roll of 1936 and listed as living at 483 Neerim Road, Murrumbeena, Melbourne, VictoriaG. Herbert had a listed occupation of manager and she of home duties.
Papa had a dreadful Accident at the Brickworks when a large amount of clay fell and crushed his face. His nose was moved completely sideways and his jaw and teech badly damaged. It took quite some time to get him back together; his nose re-constructed and his jaws and teeth wired back into place. This was a doubley unfortunate accident as Herb & Mabel were due to holiday in New Zealand and visit Mabel's family. The trip was cancelled and they never got to go to NZ.
His wife Mabel Cairns died on 8 June 1955 at 483 Neerim Road, Murrumbeena, Melbourne, VictoriaG, at age 76. Of coronary occlusion.

On 23 October 1956 there was a notice in The Argus Newspaper, MelbourneG, of the results of the Georges Ball Committee Raffle in which Herbert won 2nd prize of a Mantle Radio.

On 8 November 1960 Papa Gamble was raced by the Civil Ambulance to the Alfred Hospital, Commercial Road, Prahran, VictoriaG, after an automobile crash on the corner of Camberwell Road and Redfern Roads, Auburn. According to Dr James Byron Houghton of the Alfred Hospital his condition deteriorated over night.3
Herbert died on 9 November 1960 at the Alfred Hospital at Melbourne, VictoriaG, at 4.45pm, at age 78.3 He was cremated His ashes were placed in Pittosporum, Wall 3BB, Niche 107 on 11 November 1960 at Springvale Botanical Cemetery, Melbourne, VictoriaG.4
One the 30th April 1962 Bruce Stokes Wainwright and Hugh Joseph Russell Gamble, as Trustees to Herbert's Estate, sold 483 Neerim Road, Murrumbeena, the family home, to John Morley and Patricia Shepherd for the sum of $7,000. Mr & Mrs Shepherd paid 1,000 Pound deposit and paid the balance at the rate of 10 Pound per week "which shall include interest" until the 15th June 1969 when the ballance became due. The interest was 7%.
From interview with B.M.Clark (nee Gamble)
:
Early life un-clear. His cars were normally always "Buicks".
Earliest recollection is his ownership of Gambles Aereated Waters factory in North Fitzroy.
His father was something to do with Gravel pits and taring roads. There are streets in Nth Ftzroy named after them. (Gamble Street, Brunswick East which was probably the lead in road to his factory) There was a big fire that destroyed his father. He wasn't insured. (Check old newspapers)
Gambles Aereated Waters bottles had a large Bell on them as their trade symbol. He sold this. Not sure why.
They moved from their North Fitzroy address (check Herb? Miller street?) to 483 Neerim Rd Murrumbeena. (Date was approximately 1921)
He took the job of Managing Director of Gamble Brickworks, Corner Dubblin St & Ferntree Gully Road, Oakleigh UM-1082. Finally sold it after the war, and called the New Gamble Brickworks.
It employed a number of Italian workers who were regarded as good workers, however they were interned during the war.
Son, Herb (H.A.G.) left school and went to work at brickworks in the office. At outbreak of war Herb left for the Air Force and after the war started Gambles Aereated waters in Neerim Road Murrumbeena, using HJG's old recipes. This was finally sold to "Tarax".
When Brickworks were sold HJG went to help Herb at his factory.
He wasn't a drinker, gambler and rarely smoked (1 cigar a year at Christmas). Family activities involved family Sunday Drives and Cards (Bridge) on a Saturday night. This was mainly with Mr (Duncan) and Mrs. (Bella) MacKinnon or Mr and Mrs Fred Dalton.
When mum (Mable Cairns) died, we went to live at Neerim Road with him, for 18 months to 2 years.
After we left he found a woman with older/grown up children to rent the house. He lived in his large front room and porch area with access to kitchen and toilet facilities. She gave him his evening meal and he prepared his own breakfast.
On weekends he would come to us, at 207 Balwyn Road and I would do his washing.
HJG had a car accident on the corner of Redfern Avenue and Riversdale Rd, Camberwell. He was taken to the Alfred Hospital and was unconscious and were doing an operation on his scull when he died on the operating table."
To his grandchildren he was known as "Pa Pa".

H.J.GABLE P/L and Antique Bottle Collecting
H.J. GAMBLE P/L appears to have operated for about 5-6 years for the period 1915/6 to 1921/22. They shared with three other known manufacturers using the "BELL" trade mark. The association is not clear but they seemed to share the common trade mark and same address "8 King Street; North Fitzroy".
In terms of Bottle designs they seem to have 3-4 different "Internal Thread" designs; 1 known "Codd" type bottle (bottle with internal glass marble); and 1 Stoneware Ginger Beer bottle. They are reasonably attractive to Antique Bottle Collectors.

The following is also provided by Ken Arnold; publisher in the bottle collecting area.
"Born at Moneaux River, South Island, New Zealand, Frederick Slade Moneaux O'neill arrived in Melbourne and worked very briefly for Bilson Bros. However he was soon followed by his brother Thomas thus a partnership trading as O'Neill Bros. was formed at 11 Woodside St, North Fitzroy in 1889. This business continued to trade until 1930.
A Frederick G. O'neill of O'Neill Bros. North Fitzroy established an aerated water factory at 179 Caluscen St. North Fitzroy in 1910 however during 1913 the proprietor was Carl J O Pfieler who traded as C. Pfieler. After two years in business Pfieler sold out to Herbert Joseph Gamble who continued as a cordial maker until 1 October 1920 when he opened a new factory at 6 King Street North Fitzroy. The following year the business was sold to Moffat Neilson. This operated until 1926 when it was known as Neilson & Co.
Herbert Gamble lived in King Street from 1907 to 1921.
The trademark of a bell was applied for in August 1917.. Another trademark with the addition of War Mo was applied for in August 1918.

From an Interview with H A Gamble:
The factory was leased in 1922 then finally sold in 1924. It employed about seven people, six in factory and the syrup maker, who was often HJ Gamble himself.
Their bottles were obtained from Australian Glass in Spotswood.
The Bell was HJ's idea as he wanted people to know that his drinks were "as sound as a bell".
It is belived that "Warmo" means "as sound as a bell". Either Latin or German.
(Although the meaning is unclear the etymology of "Warmo" appears to be largley greater germanic. See "Epea Pteroenta: Conveying Revelations of the Past"
By Nathan Lazarus Benmohel.

Family

Mabel Cairns b. 27 May 1879, d. 8 Jun 1955
Children

Citations

  1. [S197] Their Marriage Certificate, Victorian Marriage Certificate 128 of 1910.
  2. [S195] The Argus, The Argus Wednesday 7th April 1915
    ADAMSON, STRETTLE, and CO. PROP. LTD., Victoria Horse Bazaar, have received instructions from Mr. H. J. Gamble, King Street, North Fitzroy, to SELL by AUCTION, on the premises, as above, on Thursday, 8th April, at one o'clock:
    29 heavy draught geldings, 5 years to aged
    6 double lorries, 12ft. 6in. by 6ft 4in.
    1 tip dray
    6 sets double harness Jinker,
    4 hay frames, stable utensils, &c.
    The auctioneers have every confidence in recommending anyone in quest of horses, lorries, or harness to attend, as Mr. Gamble has taken over the cordial business of the C. Pfieler Kalos Cordial Factory, Clauscen Street, North Fitzroy, and everything is for sale.
  3. [S316] Coronial Inquest into the death of Herbert Joseph Gamble.
  4. [S226] Springvale botanical cemetery; Gamble, Herbert Joseph; Cremated, 11/11/1960; Pittosporum, Wall 3BB, Niche 107.

Mabel Cairns

F, b. 27 May 1879, d. 8 June 1955
Mable Cairns - Mama Gamble
FatherFrancis Gairn Cairns Snr. b. 16 Nov 1822, d. 9 Jun 1887
MotherElizabeth Johnston b. 9 Feb 1838, d. 3 Apr 1880
ChartsCairns, John - Descendant Chart (Indented)
Craw (Crow), James - Descendant Chart (Indented)
Gamble, John - Descendants Chart (Indented)
Last Edited7 Nov 2018
     Mable C, during the war, worked at Scotts Church Hall doing voluntary work preparing meals for a servicemens R&R centre. She was walking     through the city to Scotts Church when she collapsed and taken to Royal Melbourne Hospital where it was found that she had a clot in one of her heart valves. It was this clot that finally killed her. Mabel was born on 27 May 1879 at Hawksbury, Waikouaiti, New ZealandG.
She married Herbert Joseph Gamble on 28 April 1910 at Presbyterian Church, Footscray, MelbourneG.1 As of 28 April 1910,her married name was Gamble. Mabel and Herbert appeared on the Australian electoral roll of 1914 and listed as living at 4 King Street east, Brunswick, Melbourne, VictoriaG. Mabel had a listed occupation of house duties and he of carrier. Mabel and Herbert appeared on the Australian electoral roll of 1919 and listed as living at 4 King Street east, Brunswick, Melbourne, VictoriaG. Mabel had a listed occupation of home duties and he of carrier. Note that in second listing for 1919 for the Division of Bourke, Subdivision of Brunswick South that they are listed as Three (3) King Street.. She and Herbert Joseph Gamble lived in 1921 at King Street, North Fitzroy, Melbourne, VictoriaG; Herbert had lived there since 1907. At this stage of their lives, having just sold their Aereated Waters business they moved on. There next electoral roll address has them listed as living in South Road, Bright where we believe hey were staying with ??. This was possibly whist Neerim Road was being built. Mabel and Herbert appeared on the Australian electoral roll of 1924 and listed as living at 89 South Road, Brighton, MelbourneG. Mabel had a listed occupation of home duties and he of nil. This was possibly a temporary address whilst moving into Neerim Road. Certainly Betty was not aware of this so it was probably a short term stay.. Mabel and Herbert appeared on the Australian electoral roll of 1931 and listed as living at 483 Neerim Road, Murrumbeena, Melbourne, VictoriaG. Mabel had a listed occupation of home duties and he of bricklayer. Given that Herbert had never laid a brick in his live makes this is incorrect. He was in fact a brickmaker.. Mabel and Herbert appeared on the Australian electoral roll of 1936 and listed as living at 483 Neerim Road, Murrumbeena, Melbourne, VictoriaG. Mabel had a listed occupation of home duties and he of manager.
Mabel died on 8 June 1955 at 483 Neerim Road at Murrumbeena, Melbourne, VictoriaG, of coronary occlusion at age 76. Mabel had been suffering with Hyperpiesis and Arteriosclerosis for 10 years prior to her death. She was cremated on 10 June 1955 at Springvale Botanical Cemetery, Melbourne, VictoriaG.2
Mabel Cairns became a widow with the death of her husband, Herbert Joseph Gamble
; at 4.45pm.3

Family

Herbert Joseph Gamble b. 3 Jul 1882, d. 9 Nov 1960
Children

Citations

  1. [S197] Their Marriage Certificate, Victorian Marriage Certificate 128 of 1910.
  2. [S226]
  3. [S316] Coronial Inquest into the death of Herbert Joseph Gamble.

William Clark

M
ChartsClark, William - Descendant Chart (Indented)
Last Edited1 Jul 2018
     William Clark was born at EnglandG.

Family

Child

John Clark

M, b. 27 June 1812, d. 22 August 1884
FatherWilliam Clark
ChartsClark, William - Descendant Chart (Indented)
Last Edited26 Nov 2019
     John was born possibly in Leeds on 27 June 1812 at Derbyshire, EnglandG.1
He married Mary Anne Slater on 31 October 1833 at Duffield, Derbyshire, EnglandG.2 Early in my Family History research I made friends with Glenda Joy Bradley, a fellow genealogist. From a note she provided we gain the following family lore. "The Clark family owned a brewery in England. Aunty thinks John was the only one to come to Australia. John was married to Mary Ann (nee Slater). They landed in South Australia from Derbyshire England. Their oldest son John was 12 years old.
Mary Ann's mother came with them. They also brought some servants and also furniture. They sailed on the ship Dorothy."1

"It is believed that he lived and preached at Staffordshire, England. Later after coming to Australia he came to Tylden, Victoria in 1856 and then later lived in Baynton, Victoria on Jewsharp Creek for 10 years. He then went to Womboota, N.S.W.."1 John Clark and Mary Anne Slater arrived on 6 June 1849 to Port Adelaide, South AustraliaG; The Dorothy, a ship of 488 tons, had originally left Plymouth on 4th Mar before reaching Port Adelaide. John and family travelled this distance as steerage passengers before leaving the ship in Adelaide. From here the Dorothy left for Melbourne arriving there on July 29 after leaving Adelaide on the 21st.
The South Australian Register on Sat 9th June 1849, p4: "Wednesday, June 6 The barque Dorothy, 488 tons, Moody, master, from London. Passengers— Mr Jonas M Myers, Mr Richard Baker Aldersey, wife. and seven children, Mr William Montgomery, wife, and three children. Mr John Rule, Miss Sarah Rule, in the cabin.
Messrs John Joseph Hail, Richard Pirkins, John Moseler Smith, Miss Ellen Scott, Mr William Stewart, in the intermediate. Richard Wm. Lerrett, wife, and two children. John Archer, wife, and child, Wm. Barnes and wife, Henry Rugless, wife, and two children, Henry S Rugless and wife, George Lee and wife, Thomas Goodman, Maria Williams and son, Patrick Gallaway, wife, and three children. James William Bailey, John Robertson, Thos Hitherington, Eliza Barnett, Philip Larritt. William Mason, wife, and child, Robert Torlmer, wife, and two children (Walter, aged I6 years, was drowned at sea, 2nd June). William Brewer, wife, and child, James Brown and wife, Margaret Humbut, Elizabeth Fisher, James Hawkins and two children, John Turner, wife, and five children, Charles Swift, wife, and four children, John Clarse [Clark]. wife, and seven children, Eleanor Slater [nee Frith], Mary Raw Hs. Joseph Fogg. Charles George Webb, Mary Ann Kerby, Geo Diggins. John Grummedge, Harstham Hogg, George Peter Hammond, wife, and three children. Jane Barnes, Thomas Thacker, John Rawson. Thomas Tyler, wife, and eight children, John Stock, John Symes Avery, in the steerage."3

John died on 22 August 1884 at Moama, New South WalesG, from Chronic Asthma at age 72. His body was interred on 23 August 1884 at Moama Cemetery, Moama, New South WalesG.

Family

Mary Anne Slater b. 1813, d. 25 Sep 1887
Children

Citations

  1. [S264] Notes from Glenda Joy Bradley - Early research notes shared from her.
  2. [S99] Text , FindMyPast: England Marriages 1538-1973.
  3. [S99] Text , "SHIPPING INTELLIGENCE." South Australian Register (Adelaide, SA : 1839 - 1900) 9 June 1849: p4. Web. 22 Dec 2018 <http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article50246245>.

Mary Anne Slater

F, b. 1813, d. 25 September 1887
FatherIsaac Slater b. c 1777
MotherEleanor Frith b. c 1779, d. 23 Apr 1868
ChartsClark, William - Descendant Chart (Indented)
Last Edited26 Nov 2019
     Mary was born in 1813 at Heighton, Derby, EnglandG. She was baptized on 27 February 1814 at Belper, Derby, EnglandG.1
She married John Clark on 31 October 1833 at Duffield, Derbyshire, EnglandG.2 As of 31 October 1833,her married name was Clark.2 Mary Anne Slater and John Clark arrived on 6 June 1849 to Port Adelaide, South AustraliaG; The Dorothy, a ship of 488 tons, had originally left Plymouth on 4th Mar before reaching Port Adelaide. John and family travelled this distance as steerage passengers before leaving the ship in Adelaide. From here the Dorothy left for Melbourne arriving there on July 29 after leaving Adelaide on the 21st.
The South Australian Register on Sat 9th June 1849, p4: "Wednesday, June 6 The barque Dorothy, 488 tons, Moody, master, from London. Passengers— Mr Jonas M Myers, Mr Richard Baker Aldersey, wife. and seven children, Mr William Montgomery, wife, and three children. Mr John Rule, Miss Sarah Rule, in the cabin.
Messrs John Joseph Hail, Richard Pirkins, John Moseler Smith, Miss Ellen Scott, Mr William Stewart, in the intermediate. Richard Wm. Lerrett, wife, and two children. John Archer, wife, and child, Wm. Barnes and wife, Henry Rugless, wife, and two children, Henry S Rugless and wife, George Lee and wife, Thomas Goodman, Maria Williams and son, Patrick Gallaway, wife, and three children. James William Bailey, John Robertson, Thos Hitherington, Eliza Barnett, Philip Larritt. William Mason, wife, and child, Robert Torlmer, wife, and two children (Walter, aged I6 years, was drowned at sea, 2nd June). William Brewer, wife, and child, James Brown and wife, Margaret Humbut, Elizabeth Fisher, James Hawkins and two children, John Turner, wife, and five children, Charles Swift, wife, and four children, John Clarse [Clark]. wife, and seven children, Eleanor Slater [nee Frith], Mary Raw Hs. Joseph Fogg. Charles George Webb, Mary Ann Kerby, Geo Diggins. John Grummedge, Harstham Hogg, George Peter Hammond, wife, and three children. Jane Barnes, Thomas Thacker, John Rawson. Thomas Tyler, wife, and eight children, John Stock, John Symes Avery, in the steerage."3

Mary died on 25 September 1887 at Moama, New South WalesG, NSW Reg No: 10657/1887 at age at an unknown age . Her body was interred on 27 September 1887 at Moama Cemetery, Moama, New South WalesG.

Family

John Clark b. 27 Jun 1812, d. 22 Aug 1884
Children

Citations

  1. [S307] UK General Register Office, England Births and Baptisms 1538-1975, Record Transcription: held by Findmypast.com.au, Mary Anne Slater 1814.
  2. [S99] Text , FindMyPast: England Marriages 1538-1973.
  3. [S99] Text , "SHIPPING INTELLIGENCE." South Australian Register (Adelaide, SA : 1839 - 1900) 9 June 1849: p4. Web. 22 Dec 2018 <http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article50246245>.

John Clark (Jnr)

M, b. 13 August 1837, d. 13 January 1912
John Clark
FatherJohn Clark b. 27 Jun 1812, d. 22 Aug 1884
MotherMary Anne Slater b. 1813, d. 25 Sep 1887
ChartsClark, William - Descendant Chart (Indented)
Follett, John - Descendants (Indented)
Last Edited30 Sep 2018
     John was born on 13 August 1837 at Heage, Derby, EnglandG.1 He immigrated with his parents John Clark and Mary Anne Slater on 6 June 1849 at Port Adelaide, South AustraliaG; The Dorothy, a ship of 488 tons, had originally left Plymouth on 4th Mar before reaching Port Adelaide. John and family travelled this distance as steerage passengers before leaving the ship in Adelaide. From here the Dorothy left for Melbourne arriving there on July 29 after leaving Adelaide on the 21st.
The South Australian Register on Sat 9th June 1849, p4: "Wednesday, June 6 The barque Dorothy, 488 tons, Moody, master, from London. Passengers— Mr Jonas M Myers, Mr Richard Baker Aldersey, wife. and seven children, Mr William Montgomery, wife, and three children. Mr John Rule, Miss Sarah Rule, in the cabin.
Messrs John Joseph Hail, Richard Pirkins, John Moseler Smith, Miss Ellen Scott, Mr William Stewart, in the intermediate. Richard Wm. Lerrett, wife, and two children. John Archer, wife, and child, Wm. Barnes and wife, Henry Rugless, wife, and two children, Henry S Rugless and wife, George Lee and wife, Thomas Goodman, Maria Williams and son, Patrick Gallaway, wife, and three children. James William Bailey, John Robertson, Thos Hitherington, Eliza Barnett, Philip Larritt. William Mason, wife, and child, Robert Torlmer, wife, and two children (Walter, aged I6 years, was drowned at sea, 2nd June). William Brewer, wife, and child, James Brown and wife, Margaret Humbut, Elizabeth Fisher, James Hawkins and two children, John Turner, wife, and five children, Charles Swift, wife, and four children, John Clarse [Clark]. wife, and seven children, Eleanor Slater [nee Frith], Mary Raw Hs. Joseph Fogg. Charles George Webb, Mary Ann Kerby, Geo Diggins. John Grummedge, Harstham Hogg, George Peter Hammond, wife, and three children. Jane Barnes, Thomas Thacker, John Rawson. Thomas Tyler, wife, and eight children, John Stock, John Symes Avery, in the steerage."2

He married Susanna Follett Beer on 27 August 1856 at Bowden, AdelaideG. John was employed at as a Farmer at Clowes Forrest, Kyneton, VictoriaG, in 1857.
On 27 January 1872 John applied, as a a licencee, to purchase the land he was occupying near Trentham, VictoriaG. This consisted of 20 Acres, 1 Rood and 29 Perches in the parish of Trentham [East trentham?]. The estimated price for John to purchase this block was £54-10-0. John appeared on the Australian electoral roll of 1903 and listed as living at 98 Macalister Street, Sale, VictoriaG. John had a listed occupation of blacksmith. John and Susanna appeared on the Australian electoral roll of 1903 and listed as living at Stratford, VictoriaG. John had a listed occupation of home duties and she of independent means. John appeared on the Australian electoral roll of 1909 and listed as living at Market Street, Sale, VictoriaG. John had a listed occupation of "independent means."
John died on 13 January 1912 at Sale, VictoriaG, acute gastroenteritis toxaemia at age 74. His body was interred on 14 January 1912 at Sale Cemetery, Sale, VictoriaG.

Family

Susanna Follett Beer b. 4 Mar 1838, d. 18 Dec 1907
Children

Citations

  1. [S99] Text , FindMyPast: England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975.
  2. [S99] Text , "SHIPPING INTELLIGENCE." South Australian Register (Adelaide, SA : 1839 - 1900) 9 June 1849: p4. Web. 22 Dec 2018 <http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article50246245>.

William Beer

M, b. 12 June 1767, d. circa 1851
FatherWilliam Beer
MotherMary Dorrage
Last Edited24 Nov 2019
     William was employed as a Blacksmith. William was born on 12 June 1767 at Yealmpton, Devon, EnglandG. He was christened in 1767 at Yealmpton, Devon, EnglandG.
He married Sarah Gist on 13 January 1792 at Yealmpton, Devon, EnglandG. They also have a reported marriage date as 13 July..1,2
William Beer died circa 1851.

Family

Sarah Gist b. 7 Aug 1768, d. Oct 1850
Children

Citations

  1. [S99] Text , England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014.
    Original data: England, Marriages, 1538–1973. Salt Lake City, Utah: FamilySearch, 2013.
  2. [S311] Devon Family History Society, Devon Marriages, Sarah Gist; 13 Jul1792.

Sarah Gist

F, b. 7 August 1768, d. October 1850
FatherJoseph Gist
MotherCecily Palmer b. 8 Apr 1735
Last Edited23 Nov 2019
     Sarah Gist was baptized on 7 August 1768 at Okehampton, Devon, EnglandG.
She married William Beer on 13 January 1792 at Yealmpton, Devon, EnglandG. They also have a reported marriage date as 13 July..1,2 As of 13 July 1792,her married name was Beer.
Sarah Gist died in October 1850 at Newton Abbott, DevonG, at age 82.

Family

William Beer b. 12 Jun 1767, d. c 1851
Children

Citations

  1. [S99] Text , England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014.
    Original data: England, Marriages, 1538–1973. Salt Lake City, Utah: FamilySearch, 2013.
  2. [S311] Devon Family History Society, Devon Marriages, Sarah Gist; 13 Jul1792.

James Beer

M, b. 2 May 1809, d. 27 November 1877
FatherWilliam Beer b. 12 Jun 1767, d. c 1851
MotherSarah Gist b. 7 Aug 1768, d. Oct 1850
ChartsFollett, John - Descendants (Indented)
Last Edited30 Mar 2021
     James was born on 2 May 1809 at Plymouth, Devon, EnglandG. He was baptized at St Andrew's on 14 May 1809 at Plymouth, Devon, EnglandG.
He married Susanna Follett on 14 June 1833 at West Teignmouth, Devon, EnglandG. James Beer father of Susanna Beer on 15 October 1837 at St.Paul, Exeter, Devon, EnglandG. James was employed in 1838, at Exeter, Devon, EnglandG. On the 7th January 1839 James applied to Mr J Horsey to be registered as an "Emmigrant Labourer for Free Passage to South Australia". At this time his occupation was listed as Blacksmith and his Residence was given just as Exeter. He was 29 years old then and his wife (Susanna) was 26. They had listed as children, one boy aged 3 years (James John) and a daughter aged 9 months (Susanna Follett). His "Embarkation No." was 2638.. James arrived on 24 September 1839 aboard the "Recovery" with his wife, son and daughter, four months after leaving London
. The RECOVERY, a three-masted ship, weighed anchor on 19 May 1839 at Plymouth with Captain Thomas Johnson and 237 passengers. The passenger list included 110 adults accompanied by 65 children travelling under the Emigration Fund, 19 non-Fund passengers with 17 children, and ten Superior Class passengers with three children.
The Recovery was to make a second such voyage from London arriving at Pt Lincoln on Dec 15th 1839. (query this). In 1858 both the Beer and Clark families travelled overland to the gold diggings at Fryers Creek, VictoriaG. Soon after they left the goldfields and settled on adjoining land at Tylden, near Kyneton where the Beer's owned Portions 106 and 107 in the Parish of Tylden and John Clark owned Portion 67.1 He was widowed with the death of Susanna Follett on 19 July 1862 at the local Hospital, Kyneton, Dalhousie, VictoriaG.
He married Mary Rouse on 24 March 1864 at Collins Street Baptist Church, Melbourne, VictoriaG.2,3,1
James died on 27 November 1877 at South Tylden, VictoriaG, from chronic hepatitis which he had been suffering for 2 months. at age 68. He was attended to by Dr Petell who last saw him a fortnight before his death. [Reg Vic No: 12673]. His body was interred on 28 November 1877 at local cemetery, Tylden, VictoriaG. He had spent 20 years in South Australia and 18 years in Victoria.. His estate was probated on 28 February 1878 at Supreme Court of Victoria, Probate Jurisdiction.

Family 1

Susanna Follett b. 23 Feb 1813, d. 19 Jul 1862
Children

Family 2

Mary Rouse b. c 1807

Citations

  1. [S63] Durrant, Not All Beer & Skittles , p3.
  2. [S71] BDM Index, Vic, Pioneers Index , Reg. No. 1011.
  3. [S197] Their Marriage Certificate, James Beer and Mary Rouse. Reg Vic No: 1011/1864.

Susanna Follett Beer

F, b. 4 March 1838, d. 18 December 1907
Susanna Follett Beer
FatherJames Beer b. 2 May 1809, d. 27 Nov 1877
MotherSusanna Follett b. 23 Feb 1813, d. 19 Jul 1862
ChartsClark, William - Descendant Chart (Indented)
Follett, John - Descendants (Indented)
Last Edited23 Jul 2020
     Susanna was born on 4 March 1838 at Exeter, Devon, EnglandG. She was christened on 18 March 1838 They were living in Paul Street and James' occupation is listed as "Smith". at St Paul at Exeter, Devon, EnglandG.1 She was baptized at St Paul's in 1838 at Exeter, Devon, EnglandG. She immigrated with her parents James Beer and Susanna Follett on 24 September 1839 at Port Adelaide, South AustraliaG; aboard the "Recovery" with his wife, son and daughter, four months after leaving London.

She married John Clark (Jnr) on 27 August 1856 at Bowden, AdelaideG. As of 27 August 1856,her married name was Clark.

Note: From my reasearch it becomes obvious that the married lives of Sussana Follett Clark (Beer) and John Clark ran approximately along the same lines as James John Beer and his wife Ellenor Beer (Clark). John Clark and Ellenor Clark were brother and sister as were James John Beer and Sussana Follett Beer. John Clark married Sussana Follett Beer and James Follett Beer married Ellenor Clark. For a greater insight into their lives see the Event Text for J.J. Beer.
Soon after their marriage when the gold rush was booming in Victoria all the Clark family travelled overland to Victoria bringing their cattle with them, Family lore suggests that they settled at Trentham and started a Butchery business.2 Susanna and John appeared on the Australian electoral roll of 1903 and listed as living at Stratford, VictoriaG. Susanna had a listed occupation of independent means and he of home duties.
Susanna died on 18 December 1907 at Market Street at Sale, VictoriaG, apoplecy, cerebral haemorrhage at age 69.3 Her body was interred on 19 December 1907 at local cemetry, Sale, VictoriaG.

Family

John Clark (Jnr) b. 13 Aug 1837, d. 13 Jan 1912
Children

Citations

  1. [S312] Plymouth & West Devon Record Office, Devon Baptisms, Susanna Follett Beer, daughter to Susanna and James Beer.
  2. [S264] Notes from Glenda Joy Bradley - Early research notes shared from her.
  3. [S255] Death Search Australia, Reg Vic No: 14000/1907 - Susannah Follett Clark, Sale Australia.

John Follett

M, b. 1770
FatherJohn Follett b. 28 Jun 1739
MotherAnne Lamble
ChartsFollett, John - Descendants (Indented)
Last Edited23 Jul 2020
     John was born in 1770 at Hennock, Devon, EnglandG.1 He was christened on 20 May 1770 at Hennock, Devon, EnglandG.
JOHN FOLLETT

Extracts from research by Michael Wickes

"I found a reference to them (John and Charity Follett) in the
Hennock Banns Book which led me to a Marriage at the neighbouring
parish of Chudleigh in 1796. I am enclosing a photocopy of the
transcript to the Chudleigh register showing this marriage."
Transcript Chudleigh: Marriages: 1796:
M = Mark; S = Signature
Dec 29 Follett, John (M) of Hennock ..... Jury, Charity (M.)
He married Charity Jury on 29 December 1796 at Chudleigh Knighton, Hennock/Devon, EnglandG. John was employed.

Family

Charity Jury b. 3 Dec 1773
Children

Citations

  1. [S237] Research by another, https://tree.findmypast.com.au/#/trees/…

Charity Jury

F, b. 3 December 1773
FatherWilliam Juery
MotherCharity Hay
ChartsFollett, John - Descendants (Indented)
Last Edited1 Jan 2021
     CHARITY JURY [also JUERY OR JEWERY]
     Extract from research by Michael WICKES:
     
"Charity Jury, was almost certainly the Charity daughter of William and Charity Juery baptised at Chudleigh in 1773."

Extract Chudleigh Baptisms: 1760-1780 (Jury):

1773 Dec 27th : Charity daughter of William and Charity Juery, born Dec 3rd.
     
1780 Jan 30th : William son of William and Charity Jewery, born Jan 3rd.1 Charity was born on 3 December 1773 at Chudleigh, Devon, EnglandG. She was christened on 27 December 1773 at Chudleigh, Devon, EnglandG.
She married John Follett on 29 December 1796 at Chudleigh Knighton, Hennock/Devon, EnglandG.

Family

John Follett b. 1770
Children

Citations

  1. [S102] Wickes M J L, Researcher.

Susanna Follett

F, b. 23 February 1813, d. 19 July 1862
FatherJohn Follett b. 1770
MotherCharity Jury b. 3 Dec 1773
ChartsFollett, John - Descendants (Indented)
Last Edited30 Mar 2021
     Susanna was born on 23 February 1813 at Chudleigh Knighton, Hennock/Devon, EnglandG. She was christened on 21 March 1813 at Chudleigh Knighton, Hennock/Devon, EnglandG.
Extract of reseach conducted by Michael Wickes: "I found on this occasion that Chudleigh Knighton, where Susanna Follett was born on February 23rd 1813, was not the parish of Chudleigh (as I had though) but was a hamlet within the parish of Hennock, adjacent to Chudleigh and about 6-7 miles south of Exeter.1
She married James Beer on 14 June 1833 at West Teignmouth, Devon, EnglandG. Susanna was the spouse of James Beer when he immigrated to on 24 September 1839. The RECOVERY, a three-masted ship, weighed anchor on 19 May 1839 at Plymouth with Captain Thomas Johnson and 237 passengers. The passenger list included 110 adults accompanied by 65 children travelling under the Emigration Fund, 19 non-Fund passengers with 17 children, and ten Superior Class passengers with three children.
The Recovery was to make a second such voyage from London arriving at Pt Lincoln on Dec 15th 1839. (query this). In 1858 both the Beer and Clark families travelled overland to the gold diggings at Fryers Creek, VictoriaG. Soon after they left the goldfields and settled on adjoining land at Tylden, near Kyneton where the Beer's owned Portions 106 and 107 in the Parish of Tylden and John Clark owned Portion 67.2
Susanna died on 19 July 1862 at the local Hospital, Kyneton, Dalhousie, VictoriaG, at age 49. Her body was interred at Tylden, VictoriaG.

Family

James Beer b. 2 May 1809, d. 27 Nov 1877
Children

Citations

  1. [S102] Wickes M J L, Researcher.
  2. [S63] Durrant, Not All Beer & Skittles , p3.

John Follett Clark

M, b. 8 August 1860, d. 28 March 1925
John Follett Clark
circa 1900
FatherJohn Clark (Jnr) b. 13 Aug 1837, d. 13 Jan 1912
MotherSusanna Follett Beer b. 4 Mar 1838, d. 18 Dec 1907
ChartsClark, William - Descendant Chart (Indented)
Follett, John - Descendants (Indented)
Last Edited12 Sep 2019
     John was born on 8 August 1860 at Tylden, VictoriaG.
He married Hannah Maud Carter on 8 December 1892 at Tylden, VictoriaG. John and Hannah appeared on the Australian electoral roll of 1903 and listed as living at Elgin Street, Sale, VictoriaG. John had a listed occupation of liverstable-keeper and she of home duties. John and Hannah appeared on the Australian electoral roll of 1909 and listed as living at Elgin Street, Sale, VictoriaG. John had a listed occupation of liverystable-keeper and she of home duties. Elgin Street is also the listed address for many of the Carter family. Whether the two families were neighbours, living together or a small distance away it explains how the relationship which developed between John and Hannah must have started.. John and Hannah appeared on the Australian electoral roll of 1914 and listed as living at "Kilmany", Wurruk Wurruk, VictoriaG. John had a listed occupation of farmer and she of home duties. John and Hannah appeared on the Australian electoral roll of 1919 and listed as living at "Kilmany", Wurruk Wurruk, VictoriaG. John had a listed occupation of farmer and she of home duties. John and Hannah appeared on the Australian electoral roll of 1924 and listed as living at Ringwood St, Ringwood, Melbourne, VictoriaG. John had a listed occupation of wood and coal merchant and she of home duties.
John died on 28 March 1925 at Ringwood Street at Ringwood, Melbourne, VictoriaG, at age 64. He died from Myocardial Degeneration which he had been suffering for 2 years. At this time he was known as a Wood Merchant.. His body was interred on 30 March 1925 at Box Hill Cemetery, Box Hill, VictoriaG, at the 395 Middleborough Road. His grave is "C of E - 2189".
From the Gippsland Times of the 6th April 1925, on page 3 we read: "At the Sale Agricultural Society's committee meeting on Friday, feeling reference was made to the passing away of Mr John Clark of Ringwood, who, when a resident of Sale, took a keen interest in the societies' activities. The secretary was requested to forward a letter of condolence to the bereaved family.

Family

Hannah Maud Carter b. 25 Feb 1871, d. 14 Apr 1952
Children

Charles Carter

M, b. 8 June 1844, d. 28 November 1917
FatherWilliam Carter b. 1810
MotherEliza True b. 1810
Last Edited1 Jun 2020
     Charles was born on 8 June 1844 at Hillingdon Heath, Middlesex, EnglandG. He appeared on the census of 30 March 1851 in the household of William Carter and Eliza True at Hillingdon Heath, Middlesex, EnglandG; He is listed as being a "Gardiner" and having been born in the town of Hayes. His wife Eliza is listed as being 41, married and not having an occupation. Also in the household at this time are their children John (unmarried, 14, gardiner), Hannah (unmarried, 9), Charles (unmarried, 7) and Frederick (unmarried, 4). This is confusing as John, Hannah and Frederick do not carry forward to later Australian records.1 Charles Carter appeared on the census of 1861 at Romford, Essex, EnglandG. In 1980 Frank Clark was able to confirm that Charles was originally a Ship's Carpenter aboard the Royal Yacht. It is Charles' compass and whistle that Grandma (Elsie Hull) gave to me. The Royal Yacht was the "Victoria and Albert" and this is confirmed in his obituary in the Gippsland Times, although mis-named there. Charles arrived in 1862.
He married Mary Clarke on 25 September 1869 at Sale, VictoriaG. From their Marriage Certificate we understand that it took place in the residence of their celebrant, the Rev Charles Dubourg. Curiously a Mary Dubourg was a witness. The marriage was held as a Wesleyan Church ceremony. He was 25 years old at the time and working as a labourer; she as a Spinster and also 25 years old. They were both living in Sale at the time.. Charles was employed at as a Farmer. Charles was employed at as a Gardener.
Charles was an active member of the M.U.I.O.O.F. LOYAL LATROBE LODGE.
There are a couple of references to this in local papers but the reference that links "C. Carter" to our Charles is to be found in the funeral notice of his wife Mary where the lodge specifically places a notice linking the two. See the reference under Mary. Charles and Mary appeared on the Australian electoral roll of 1909 and listed as living at Elgin Street, Sale, VictoriaG. Charles had a listed occupation of farmer and she of home duties. Charles and Mary appeared on the Australian electoral roll of 1909 and listed as living at Market Street, Sale, VictoriaG. Charles had a listed occupation of farmer and she of home duties.
His wife Mary Clarke died on 7 March 1916 at St Helen's Private Hospital, Sale, VictoriaG, at age 69. Cancer of the liver & exhaustion.
Soon after the death of his wife Charles moved to live with his daughter Mrs Sayer. [Maud Mary Carter] Charles was a Carpenter at the time of his death in 1917.
Charles died on 28 November 1917 at Fitzroy Street at Sale, VictoriaG, chronic heart disease at age 73. His place of death in Fitzroy street is described as being the home of his son-in-law; Mr D Sayer, husband of Maud Mary Carter.
Further in ab obituary in the Gippsland Times of Thu 29 Nov 1917, p3: After a prolonged illness, Mr. Carter, of Sale, passed away at 3 a.m. yesterday, at the residence of his daughter, Mrs. D. Sayer, of Fitzroy street, at the age of 73 years. His wife pre-deceased him 18 months ago, since when he has been living at Mr. and Mrs. Sayer's. He leaves a grown-up family of six; three daughters: Mrs. J. Clark (Wurruk), Mrs. D. Sayer (Sale), Mrs Jas. Royle (Bairnsdale); and three sons: Mr. W. J. Carter, of Nambrok; Mr. C. Carter (Melbourne); and A. F. Carter (Traralgon). Deceased, who came to Sale about 50 years ago, led an up right life, and was universally esteemed.
In his early life he served on board the Royal yacht "Victor Albert," and was a playmate of the late King Edward, to which fact he often made reference. The funeral takes place today, leaving Mr. Sayer's residence at 2.30 p.m.
.2,3 His body was interred on 29 November 1917 at Sale Cemetery, Sale, VictoriaG. His obituary in the The Gippsland Farmers' Journal dated 30th Nov 1917, p2 reads as: After a prolonged illness, Mr Carter, of Sale, passed away on Wednesday at the residence of his daughter, Mrs D. Sayer, of Fitzroy street, at the age of 73 years. He leaves a grown up family of six, three daughters and three sons, one of whom is Mr A F. Carter, of Traralgon. He came to Sale 50 years ago, says the "Times", led an upright life, and was universally esteemed. In his early life he served on board the Royal yacht Victor Albert [Victoria and Albert II], and was a playmate of the late King Edward, to which fact he often made reference.4

HMY Victoria and Albert II
Painting by William Frederick Mitchell

Family

Mary Clarke b. 6 Oct 1846, d. 7 Mar 1916
Children

Citations

  1. [S299] Ancestry.com, 1851 England Census, Ref: H.O. 107 1697, 52.
  2. [S156] Unknown author, Death Notice - The Press, The Argus.
  3. [S195] The Argus, Saturday 1 December 1917; Page 11.
  4. [S256] Newspaper on Trove, OBITUARY (1917, November 30). The Gippsland Farmers' Journal (Traralgon, Vic. : 1893 - 1896; 1914 - 1918), p. 2. Retrieved September 24, 2019, from http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article88814039

Mary Clarke

F, b. 6 October 1846, d. 7 March 1916
FatherJames Clarke
MotherHarritte Allan
Last Edited1 Jun 2020
     Mary was born on 6 October 1846 at Galway, IrelandG. Vic Indexes say that Mary was born in Middlesex. Whereas her Marriage Certificate states "County Galway, Ireland".. Mary was employed at St Barts Hospital as a Nursing Sister at London, Middlesex, EnglandG. Mary arrived circa 1869.
She married Charles Carter on 25 September 1869 at Sale, VictoriaG. From their Marriage Certificate we understand that it took place in the residence of their celebrant, the Rev Charles Dubourg. Curiously a Mary Dubourg was a witness. The marriage was held as a Wesleyan Church ceremony. He was 25 years old at the time and working as a labourer; she as a Spinster and also 25 years old. They were both living in Sale at the time.. As of 25 September 1869,her married name was Carter. According to Frank Clark, Mary and Charles knew each other "back home" although they were married in Australia. One of Franks few recollections of Mary was that coming from Northern Ireland she was stanchly anti-catholic and a "bitter Orange Woman". According to family tradion all you had to do to get into her bad books was to be Roman Catholic or vote Labor.
Charles was an active member of the M.U.I.O.O.F. LOYAL LATROBE LODGE.
There are a couple of references to this in local papers but the reference that links "C. Carter" to our Charles is to be found in the funeral notice of his wife Mary where the lodge specifically places a notice linking the two. See the reference under Mary. Mary and Charles appeared on the Australian electoral roll of 1909 and listed as living at Market Street, Sale, VictoriaG. Mary had a listed occupation of home duties and he of farmer. Mary and Charles appeared on the Australian electoral roll of 1909 and listed as living at Elgin Street, Sale, VictoriaG. Mary had a listed occupation of home duties and he of farmer. Mary was a trained Mid-wife.
Mary died on 7 March 1916 at St Helen's Private Hospital, Sale, VictoriaG, cancer of the liver & exhaustion at age 69. Her body was interred on 9 March 1916 at Sale Cemetery, Sale, VictoriaG. The following Funeral Notices can be found in the Gippsland Times, Thu 9 Mar 1916, p2:
FUNERAL NOTICE The friends of MR. CHAS. CARTER are respectfully invited to follow the remains of his late beloved wife, Mary, to the place of interment, the Sale General Cemetery. The Funeral will move from his residence, Elgin Street, THIS DAY (Thursday), March 9th, at 2.30 p.m. L. JENSEN & CO., Undertakers.
FUNERAL NOTICE. M.U.I.O.O.F.LOYAL LATROBE LODGE. MEMBERS are requested to MEET at the Lodge Room at 2 o'clock TO-DAY (Thursday), to follow the remains of the late WIFE of BRO. C. CARTER to the Sale Cemetery. B.C.GUY, N.G.- J.Mc F. SHANKLY, Sec.
.

Family

Charles Carter b. 8 Jun 1844, d. 28 Nov 1917
Children

Hannah Maud Carter

F, b. 25 February 1871, d. 14 April 1952
Hanna Maud Clark
(nee Carter)
FatherCharles Carter b. 8 Jun 1844, d. 28 Nov 1917
MotherMary Clarke b. 6 Oct 1846, d. 7 Mar 1916
ChartsClark, William - Descendant Chart (Indented)
Follett, John - Descendants (Indented)
Last Edited13 Oct 2020
     Hannah Maud Carter was born on 25 February 1871 at Sale, VictoriaG. Her mother, Mary, was 23 years old and her father, Charles, was 26.
Her birth was registered on the Second of March that year by her father and has the Registration Number 5051.1 She was confirmed on 28 February 1886 at St Pauls Church, Sale, VictoriaG; Then, according to her Communion Card, she attended her first communion on 14 Mar 1886.2
She married John Follett Clark on 8 December 1892 at Tylden, VictoriaG. Hannah and John appeared on the Australian electoral roll of 1903 and listed as living at Elgin Street, Sale, VictoriaG. Hannah had a listed occupation of home duties and he of liverstable-keeper. Hannah and John appeared on the Australian electoral roll of 1909 and listed as living at Elgin Street, Sale, VictoriaG. Hannah had a listed occupation of home duties and he of liverystable-keeper. Elgin Street is also the listed address for many of the Carter family. Whether the two families were neighbours, living together or a small distance away it explains how the relationship which developed between John and Hannah must have started.. Hannah and John appeared on the Australian electoral roll of 1914 and listed as living at "Kilmany", Wurruk Wurruk, VictoriaG. Hannah had a listed occupation of home duties and he of farmer. Hannah and John appeared on the Australian electoral roll of 1919 and listed as living at "Kilmany", Wurruk Wurruk, VictoriaG. Hannah had a listed occupation of home duties and he of farmer. Hannah and John appeared on the Australian electoral roll of 1924 and listed as living at Ringwood St, Ringwood, Melbourne, VictoriaG. Hannah had a listed occupation of home duties and he of wood and coal merchant.
Hannah died on 14 April 1952 at Gippsland Base Hospital, Sale, Tanjil, VictoriaG. She is reported to have died from Carcinoma of the Pancreas and obstructive jaundice She was attended to by Dr Baldwin. at age 81. Her body was interred on 16 April 1952 at Box Hill Cemetery, Box Hill, VictoriaG, at the 395 Middleborough Road. Church of England; plot - 2189.

Family

John Follett Clark b. 8 Aug 1860, d. 28 Mar 1925
Children

Citations

  1. [S201] Victorian Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages, Birth Certificate, Victoria, Australia, Reg Vic No: 5051.
  2. [S318] Andrew Clark [4], Andrew's Assorded Documents, Her Communion Card in Clark Documents.

James Gamble

M, b. March 1805, d. 16 October 1867
FatherJohn Gamble
MotherJane Shea
ChartsGamble, John - Descendants Chart (Indented)
Last Edited26 May 2021
     James was born in March 1805 at Antrim, IrelandG. He was , prior to his marriage, a Farmer & Quarryman in 1828.
He married Agnes Nancy Dunlop in 1829 at Antrim, IrelandG.1 James Gamble and Agnes Nancy Dunlop emigrated on 9 November 1838 from Belfast, Northern IrelandG, aboard the "Garrow". James and Agnes arrived on 2 March 1839 aboard the "Garrow".
The entry from his immigration records state:
Married Male Immigrant.
Arrived by the Garrow.
Bought out by Government.
A Native of Northern Ireland, Son of John a farmer of same place and Jane Shea his wife living there.
Age on Embarkation 34 years in March 1839.
State of bodily health, strength, and probable usefulness - very good.
Religion Presbyterian
Remarks, Reads and Writes.

Also his funeral notice in the Argus on Sat 26th 1867 states that he was from "Carryreagh, County Antrim"..2,3 James Gamble and Agnes Nancy Dunlop arrived on 2 March 1839 to Sydney, New South WalesG; Her Immigration Documents read:
Married Female Immigrant
Arrived by the Ship Garrow
Bought out by Government
A Native of North of Ireland - daughter of William Dunlop farmer of same place and Jane, his wife living there.
Calling: House Servant
Age: 28 years
State of bodily health, strength, and probable Usefulness - Very good
Religion Presbyterian
Remarks: Reads and Writes
Male Children, exceeding one, and under eighteen years.
William, 8 years - 3rd October 1838
Joseph, 2 years - in July 1838.
James Gamble and Agnes Nancy Dunlop arrived on 28 April 1839 to Melbourne, Port Phillip DistrictG; They sailed for 10 days from Sydney to Melbourne on the John Barry with their family of James and Joseph. Agnes was aged 28, James 34.4 Agnes was involved in Hotel ownerships through her life in the Fitzroy area. Of interest is that on night of 25 June 1864 a "Small dark red poley cow" of hers was stolen from "near the British Queen Hotel, North Fitz Roy". She had hobbled it at the time of its dissapearance. Reportedly it was valued at £6. Agnes was then living at Elm Cottage, North Fitz Roy, VictoriaG. It was reported to the Police and the cow was recovered on 24th August 1864.5 James Gamble witnessed the death of Catherine Gamble on 15 July 1864 at Stockyard Hill, Beaufort, Victoria, AustraliaG.6 James was employed at as a Contractor. James was employed at as a Farmer.
James died on 16 October 1867 at Flinders Street at Melbourne, VictoriaG, at age 62. His death certificate indicates that he was accidently killed by a dray wheel passing over his head. This was the verdict at an inquest held by R. Good(?), Coroner on the 17th October 1867..7 The Death Certificate for James states that he was a Carter and Quarryman.8
The following article is from The Argus newspaper on 18 October 1867, page page 4: The city coroner held an inquest yesterday on the body of James Gamble, who had been accidentally killed in Flinders-street on the previous day. Alfred Morton, cab-drive, stated he was present at the time of the accident. Deceased was in charge of a horse and dray. He was in the act of getting off the dray in front of the wheel, but when he reached the ground the fore part of the dray struck him in the back. The deceased staggered and fell under the horse's belly; the horse walked over him and the wheel passed over his head. The dray was loaded, and the horse was walking along at the time decease attempted to get down. The jury found that "Deceased was accidently killed in Finder street, by a dray wheel passing over his head, Gamble was sixty-four years old, and has left a widow and four children. His body was interred on 18 October 1867 at Melbourne General Cemetery, Melbourne, VictoriaG, at the Presb. I 358.

Sacred to the Memory of James Gamble who died 16th Oct 1867 aged 67 years.
Also
Agnes his beloved wife, died Feb 25 1874 aged 59 years.

Family

Agnes Nancy Dunlop b. 1811, d. 25 Feb 1874
Children

Citations

  1. [S189] Victorian Death Certificate, In the Death Certificate of James it states that he was married at age 27 to Agnes Dunlop in Ireland (no county mentioned).
  2. [S213] Unknown name of person, unknown record type, State Records Authority of New South Wales; Kingswood New South Wales, Australia; Entitlement certificates of persons on bounty ships; Series: 5314; Reel: 1301. (unknown file date).
  3. [S99] Text , "Australia, New South Wales, Assisted Immigrants Inwards, 1828-1890", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSKD-V6XS 24 February 2021), >
  4. [S256] Newspaper on Trove, The Age, Sat 13 June 1936, p7.
    TO THE EDITOR OF THE AGE.
    Sir.— Herewith I will supply such information as I have.
    Question by A. W. E. Smith, re ship John Barry. Thc ship John Barry, 524 tons, left Sheerness, England, on 17th November, 1833, and arrived at Sydney 22nd March, 1839 - 125 days. She then obtained a Government tender to take settlers to Port Phillip. John Barry; ship, 524 tons, Captain John Robson, left Sydney 18th April, 1839; arrived in Melbourne 28th April, 1839 - 10 days, Passengers: Mr. Brewster, chairman of quarter sessions; several military officers (to act as a military court), and settlers.
    She loaded in Melbourne for Launceston, and proceeded from there to Hobart and Sydney.
    John Barry: Camperdown.
  5. [S243] Chief Commissioner of Police, Victorian Police Gazette, Ancestry.com. Victoria, Australia, Police Gazettes, 1855, 1864-1924 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2016.
    Original data:
    Victoria Police Gazette Indexes. CD-ROM. Ridgehaven, South Australia: Gould Genealogy and History, 2009.
  6. [S194] Death Certificate - Victoria, Reg Vic No: 1864/6604.
  7. [S196] Australian Certificate. From the Victorian Death Certificate of James Gamble. Reg Vic No: 10734 in1867.
  8. [S189] Victorian Death Certificate.

Agnes Nancy Dunlop

F, b. 1811, d. 25 February 1874
FatherWilliam Dunlop
MotherJane Mc Fee
ChartsGamble, John - Descendants Chart (Indented)
Last Edited26 May 2021
     Her was commonly known as Nancy, in fact that is the name we mostly find on her legal documents. Agnes was born in 1811 at Ballymena, Antrim, IrelandG.
She married James Gamble in 1829 at Antrim, IrelandG.1 As of 1829,her married name was Gamble. Agnes Nancy Dunlop and James Gamble emigrated on 9 November 1838 from Belfast, Northern IrelandG, aboard the "Garrow". James and Agnes arrived on 2 March 1839 aboard the "Garrow".
The entry from his immigration records state:
Married Male Immigrant.
Arrived by the Garrow.
Bought out by Government.
A Native of Northern Ireland, Son of John a farmer of same place and Jane Shea his wife living there.
Age on Embarkation 34 years in March 1839.
State of bodily health, strength, and probable usefulness - very good.
Religion Presbyterian
Remarks, Reads and Writes.

Also his funeral notice in the Argus on Sat 26th 1867 states that he was from "Carryreagh, County Antrim"..2,3 She and James Gamble arrived on 2 March 1839 to Sydney, New South WalesG; Her Immigration Documents read:
Married Female Immigrant
Arrived by the Ship Garrow
Bought out by Government
A Native of North of Ireland - daughter of William Dunlop farmer of same place and Jane, his wife living there.
Calling: House Servant
Age: 28 years
State of bodily health, strength, and probable Usefulness - Very good
Religion Presbyterian
Remarks: Reads and Writes
Male Children, exceeding one, and under eighteen years.
William, 8 years - 3rd October 1838
Joseph, 2 years - in July 1838.
Agnes Nancy Dunlop and James Gamble arrived on 28 April 1839 to Melbourne, Port Phillip DistrictG; They sailed for 10 days from Sydney to Melbourne on the John Barry with their family of James and Joseph. Agnes was aged 28, James 34.4 Agnes was employed, at Brunswick, Melbourne, VictoriaG.
Agnes died on 25 February 1874 at Brunswick, Melbourne, VictoriaG, She died at about 4:00pm as a result of "valvular disease of the heart". This being the findings of the inquest held by the Coroner, Dr Chandler on 26th Feb 1874. at age at an unknown age .5 Her body was interred on 27 February 1874 at Melbourne General Cemetery, VictoriaG. Presb. I 358..

Sacred to the Memory of James Gamble who died 16th Oct 1867 aged 67 years.
Also
Agnes his beloved wife, died Feb 25 1874 aged 59 years.
Her estate was probated on 27 March 1874; Probate was granted to Mary Gamble, her eldest daughter. Her Probate has the file number 11/587. We gain from this document that she must have been residing with Mary in Nicholson Street, North Fitzroy.
The value of the Estate was 321 Pounds 7 Shillings and 7 Pence. The bulk an Australasian Insurance Policy of 200 Pounds, the an amount owing to her of 82 Pounds by her son William John Gamble. The last large amount was 25Pounds "due by Alfred Cooper to deceased retained by him to ensure transfer of License of Zanoni Hotel to Lessee thereof."

Family

James Gamble b. Mar 1805, d. 16 Oct 1867
Children

Citations

  1. [S189] Victorian Death Certificate, In the Death Certificate of James it states that he was married at age 27 to Agnes Dunlop in Ireland (no county mentioned).
  2. [S213] Unknown name of person, unknown record type, State Records Authority of New South Wales; Kingswood New South Wales, Australia; Entitlement certificates of persons on bounty ships; Series: 5314; Reel: 1301. (unknown file date).
  3. [S99] Text , "Australia, New South Wales, Assisted Immigrants Inwards, 1828-1890", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSKD-V6XS 24 February 2021), >
  4. [S256] Newspaper on Trove, The Age, Sat 13 June 1936, p7.
    TO THE EDITOR OF THE AGE.
    Sir.— Herewith I will supply such information as I have.
    Question by A. W. E. Smith, re ship John Barry. Thc ship John Barry, 524 tons, left Sheerness, England, on 17th November, 1833, and arrived at Sydney 22nd March, 1839 - 125 days. She then obtained a Government tender to take settlers to Port Phillip. John Barry; ship, 524 tons, Captain John Robson, left Sydney 18th April, 1839; arrived in Melbourne 28th April, 1839 - 10 days, Passengers: Mr. Brewster, chairman of quarter sessions; several military officers (to act as a military court), and settlers.
    She loaded in Melbourne for Launceston, and proceeded from there to Hobart and Sydney.
    John Barry: Camperdown.
  5. [S189] Victorian Death Certificate, Victorian Death Certificat 483 of 184 - Agnes Gamble.

Rachel Milne

F, b. 1766, d. 16 July 1789
ChartsCraw (Crow), James - Descendant Chart (Indented)
Last Edited5 Apr 1997
     Rachel was born in 1766.
She married Alexander Crow I on 13 June 1787 at Fordoun, Kincardine, ScotlandG.
Rachel died on 16 July 1789 at age at an unknown age .

Family

Alexander Crow I b. 21 Apr 1751, d. 26 Dec 1816
Child

Jean Herris

F, b. 11 March 1762, d. 4 November 1824
FatherWilliam Harris b. c 1720, d. b 1811
MotherJannet Guthrie b. 1722, d. 1811
ChartsCraw (Crow), James - Descendant Chart (Indented)
Last Edited4 Sep 2018
     The Death Certificate of her son, Alexander Crow, lists her given name as JANE. Jean Herris was born circa March 1762 at Fordoun, Kincardine, ScotlandG. She was baptized on 11 March 1762 at Fordoun, Kincardine, ScotlandG. Fordoun Parish 259/1 Page 148:
William Harris subtenant in Upper Mains of Fordoun had a daughter Jean baptised. Witnesses were James Falconer & Alex Henderson both of Kirktown of Fordoun..
She married Alexander Crow I on 17 March 1792 at Fordoun, Kincardine, ScotlandG. .
Fordoun, Parish No 259/1 Frame 754/841
Alexander Craw and Jean Harris in this parish were matrimonially contracted and their names having been regularly proclaimed in the church were married the 17th of March thereafter..
Jean died on 4 November 1824 at Fordoun, Kincardine, ScotlandG, at age 62.1

Family

Alexander Crow I b. 21 Apr 1751, d. 26 Dec 1816
Children

Citations

  1. [S212] Family Tree research from Ancestry.com.

Alexander Crow II

M, b. circa 1797, d. 22 October 1880
FatherAlexander Crow I b. 21 Apr 1751, d. 26 Dec 1816
MotherJean Herris b. 11 Mar 1762, d. 4 Nov 1824
ChartsCraw (Crow), James - Descendant Chart (Indented)
Last Edited29 Dec 2018
     Alexander was born circa 1797 at Fordoun, Kincardine, ScotlandG. He was baptized on 20 December 1797 at Fordoun, Kincardine, ScotlandG. Fordoun, Parish No 259/1 Frame 649:
Dec 20th 1797 Alexander Crow subtenant in West Cairnbeg had his son Alexander baptised. Witnesses of the baptism were John Jolly and John Stepehn both subtenants in Cairnbeg..
He married Jane Kidd on 11 June 1826 at Montrose, Forfarshire, Angus, ScotlandG. Alexander was employed journeyman Blacksmith. A "journeyman" was a person who had undertaken training (eg apprenticeship) and desided to work as an independent person rather than as an employee. in 1851, at Montrose, Forfarshire, Angus, ScotlandG. He and Jane Kidd arrived on 15 July 1857 to Port Phillip District; Alexander CROW at age 60 and his wife Jane CROW age 58 left Liverpool aboard the Lady Milton on 12th April 1857. With them were four children - Jane age 20, Jessie age 17, Anne age 18 and John age 14. True to his independent ways he arrived in Melbourne "Un-engaged" to any employer and released to his "own account."1,2 He resided at, at Green Valley Farm, Tweddle Road, Cabbage Tree, VictoriaG, on on 12 April 1861.
Cabbage Tree/Couangalt is hard to find these days however was an area centred on the crossroad of current Couangalt Road and Benson-McGeorge roads in what is now Gisborne South. Originally is was known as Cabbage Tree and Couangalt Road was known as Cabbage Tree Road. The original name of Cabbage Tree was probably due to a prominent cabbage tree nearby. However the name conflicted with a more prominent settlement called Cabbage Tree in Gippsland and in 1875 it became Couangalt.3
Alexander died on 22 October 1880 at Couangalt, VictoriaG, from bronchitis which he had been suffering for10 days at age at an unknown age .
Alexander Crow Death Certificate 1880
Photograph by Andrew Clark
He was buried on 25 October 1880 at Gisborne Cemetery, Gisborne, VictoriaG.
Headstone of Alexander Crow
SACRED to the memory of Alexander CROW LATE OF MONTROSE SCOTLAND WHO DEPARTED THIS LIFE 22 OCTOBER 1880, AGED 83 YEARS. HIS END WAS PEACE
ALSO
ON THE 4TH JUNE 1891 JANE KIDD CROW BELOVED WIFE OF THE ABOVE AGED 91 YEARS.
“GOD IS LOVE”
Photograph by Andrew Clark

Family

Jane Kidd b. 9 May 1800, d. 4 Jun 1891
Children

Citations

  1. [S99] Text , Source: Series VPRS 14 Register of Assisted Immigrants from the United Kingdom held at PRO Victoria: Microfilm copy: VPRS 3502 Book: 11 Pages: 415, 419, 423 & Book: 11A Pages: 70 & 72.
  2. [S212] Family Tree research from Ancestry.com.
  3. [S262] Phillipa Butler, Haystacks and Hellfire, European Settlement in South Gisborne, p 2.

Charles Kidd

M, d. before 1851
Last Edited4 Sep 2018
     Charles Kidd was born at ScotlandG.
He married Ann Anderson in 1799 at Montrose, Forfarshire, Angus, ScotlandG. Charles Kidd was employed by, according to the Census of 1851, as a weaver at Forfarshire, ScotlandG.
Charles died before 1851 at age at an unknown age .

Family

Ann Anderson
Children

Ann Anderson

F
Last Edited18 Apr 1997
     From Laurie Richards
47 Pennington Street
Leeston, New Zealand.
"She settled in Gisborne.... though perhaps they started in Ballarat first for they were gold mining before turning to farming.

I have two stories about her. One that she lost her wedding ring and so her sons made a new one from nuggets, shaping it on the point of the anvil. I think my mother may have the ring though unfortunately it has been alloyed and made into a signet ring.

The other is that as an old lady she killed a snake with the poker when it appeared from under the furniture... and she died the next day."
She married Charles Kidd in 1799 at Montrose, Forfarshire, Angus, ScotlandG.

Family

Charles Kidd d. b 1851
Children